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  • Elroy1
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    #31
    Originally posted by thebigkabosh
    Just a question for the Grabimir fans....Do you guys really think if Grabimir would have gone 10 years undefeated if he fought in the late 80s-90s against the crop of fighters active then?

    Mike Tyson
    Michael Spinks
    Carl Williams
    Tim Witherspoon
    Tony Tucker
    Larry Holmes
    Trevor Berbick
    Mike Weaver
    Pinklon Thomas
    Greg Page
    Gerry Cooney
    Tony Tubbs
    James Smith
    Frank Bruno
    James Douglas
    Lennox Lewis
    Evander Holyfield
    Rid**** Bowe
    George Foreman
    Ike Ibeabuchi
    Michael Moorer
    Oliver McCall
    Donovan Ruddock
    Andrew Golota
    Tommy Morrison
    David Tua
    Ray Mercer

    This guy wouldn't have come close to getting a title shot. He would make a good sparring partner though.
    What you mean current defensive Wladimir?

    Well he would not have fought every single one of them, only as many as he has actually fought in that 10 year period.

    And then, YES, he could have similarly gone undefeated in that time because those opponents are no better than his actual ones.

    The most serious problems would have come from Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and a few other scares along the way.

    But by and large, Wladimir would have been impenetrable.

    One of the most unpopular but nevertheless true and obvious facts are that Wladimir and Vitali would have likewise dominated the 90's.

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    • ElPatoLoco
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      #32
      Originally posted by thebigkabosh
      When you see a Russian bum like Grabimir Clinchko, a pathetically weak excuse for a pugilist, on top of the HW division you know our sport is in dire trouble. This guy has the worst chin of all time, he makes Floyd Patterson look like an iron chin warrior. Absolutely no heart whatsoever, the man can't fight a lick. He is fighting a bunch of fat, stiff horrible bums that wouldn't be fit to be sparring partners in the golden era and he even has the audacity to try and compare himself with the GOAT Joe Louis???

      He is so scared to go toe to toe with his terrible opposition that he has to hug them like tight like he wants to make a baby....We are all waiting for the day when a true fighter like a smokin Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali or Jack Johnson comes around and whips all these bums and bring some respectability to the once great division. The most noble thing Grabimir can do if he cares about the sport is to relinquish his titles and let a decent action fighter like Wilder take over and bring a little excitement back.

      Rant over.
      If boxing is dying, what can i watch on tv? ufc?

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      • jmrf4435
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        #33
        You are a joke. This thread merits nothing worthwhile or noteworthy, you should stop following boxing.

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        • thebigkabosh
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          #34
          Originally posted by Elroy1
          What you mean current defensive Wladimir?

          Well he would not have fought every single one of them, only as many as he has actually fought in that 10 year period.

          And then, YES, he could have similarly gone undefeated in that time because those opponents are no better than his actual ones.

          The most serious problems would have come from Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and a few other scares along the way.

          But by and large, Wladimir would have been impenetrable.

          One of the most unpopular but nevertheless true and obvious facts are that Wladimir and Vitali would have likewise dominated the 90's.
          Do you really think this glass chinned weakling who makes love to his opponents like he wants to make a baby would beat a prime Lewis? A prime Mike Tyson? A prime Rid**** Bowe? A prime Evander Holyfield? Any version of Grabimir get brutally knocked out by any of those men and nearly all the men on that list.

          This era of HW boxing is the weakest it's been for at least 50 years.

          A prime fit Klit got outboxed, humiliated, destroyed by a fat retiree golfer and was too chicken **** to accept a rematch so he got big bro to take care of his business. Then he got broken down and knocked the **** out by a poor mans Joe Frazier.
          Now he holds on for dear life so his glass chin doesn't get shattered again.

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          • Fantasiabruja
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            #35
            RESPONDING TO THE TITLE,

            How can this great sport be dying when the richest athlete in the world is a boxer. And like someone else said the biggest fight in boxing history is about to be made. It may be six years behind schedule but it's not like either guy is washed up.

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            • CHOWWOKKA
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              #36
              I think you mean the HW division is dead... Yea that's been true.

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              • Cutthroat
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                #37
                Originally posted by Elroy1
                What you mean current defensive Wladimir?

                Well he would not have fought every single one of them, only as many as he has actually fought in that 10 year period.

                And then, YES, he could have similarly gone undefeated in that time because those opponents are no better than his actual ones.

                The most serious problems would have come from Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis and a few other scares along the way.

                But by and large, Wladimir would have been impenetrable.

                One of the most unpopular but nevertheless true and obvious facts are that Wladimir and Vitali would have likewise dominated the 90's.

                Wlad got KTFO by a retired golfer and that's a fact, never avenged his loss, he'd get annihilated by those guys. Don't be delusional.

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                • jmrf4435
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                  #38
                  You are a joke. This thread merits nothing worthwhile or noteworthy, you should stop following boxing. Wlad rips through American heavyweights

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #39
                    So why are you here??

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                    • Ringlife
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                      #40
                      It had a little stroke in 2014, it's time to rebuild it right back in to recovery in 2015,

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