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  • IwatchBoxing
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    #11
    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
    FROM MICKEY... I know what your saying John but I disagree slighty. As ex forces myself the benefits of being a boxer in the forces are huge. The overall fitness of a soldier is high and maintained high but most importantly if you have an ounce of talent you are in effect removed and paid to be a full time boxer in the amateur enviroment within the forces

    FROM ICE... I respect that of course BUT I have been to many, many amateur tournaments as a coach and as a boxer and I have fought many different men of different backgrounds and HONESTLY the military guys were not any better off in ANY area, including physically, than any other group. Also, Mercer was an ARMY man
    Scully, do you train Jose Antonio Rivera? If so, how do you feel about him fighting Alejandro Garcia, moving from Welterweight to Light Middleweight... (I've been wanting to ask for weeks...)

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    • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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      #12
      Yes, I do and, HONESTLY, Jose isnt moving up in the traditional sense because he used to TORTURE himself to make 147! This weight suits him MUCH better.

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      • IwatchBoxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
        Yes, I do and, HONESTLY, Jose isnt moving up in the traditional sense because he used to TORTURE himself to make 147! This weight suits him MUCH better.
        Its like a new fad in boxing to be skinny

        Do you think he'll win?

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        • MickyHatton
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          #14
          Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
          FROM MICKEY... I know what your saying John but I disagree slighty. As ex forces myself the benefits of being a boxer in the forces are huge. The overall fitness of a soldier is high and maintained high but most importantly if you have an ounce of talent you are in effect removed and paid to be a full time boxer in the amateur enviroment within the forces

          FROM ICE... I respect that of course BUT I have been to many, many amateur tournaments as a coach and as a boxer and I have fought many different men of different backgrounds and HONESTLY the military guys were not any better off in ANY area, including physically, than any other group. Also, Mercer was an ARMY man
          Again John, I dont disagree with you, I myself am a coach and travel around from tournament to tournament and yes the military guys fair no better or worse, my point is that if you have a talented amateur who is working to pay the rent and only training for 5 or 6 hours a week surely the semi-pro way of the forces would benefit him and make him a better boxer in the long run?
          Its more likely that the real talent is picked up early on and never makes it to the forces hence the standard of boxers in the forces!
          What did your life consist of before you turned pro? If you dont mind me asking that is!

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          • keystone30pack
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            #15
            i thought i heard kassim ouma is trying to join

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            • yrrej
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              #16
              Gene Tunney was a Marine, but, like the man said, Marines aren't necessarily great boxers, or even fighters. Probably half of the retired Marines I work with are almost worthless. They tend to be lazy, fat, and/or goofy primadonnas. The other half are some of the best. Just like people everywhere. Fighters are where you find them.

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              • ophqui
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                #17
                I think Ken Norton was in the Us Marines, he was pretty good.

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                • Revere
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                  #18
                  Ray Mercer was in the army not marines. He made sgt.

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                  • Famoso Matador
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                    Yes, I do and, HONESTLY, Jose isnt moving up in the traditional sense because he used to TORTURE himself to make 147! This weight suits him MUCH better.
                    I didnt know you trained Rivera. Were you his trainer when he was due to fight Ricardo Mayorga? And do you think Mayorga would be a good opponent for him now?

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                    • Mishra100
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                      #20
                      I'm more talking about marines and not any other military division... Marines are trained to be killers and trained to take a lot of mental punishment... I just feel that a boxer could benefit from the marines if he had heart for boxing.

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