Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Pleased That Mayweather Dicussions Continue

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Its simple. Manny is plan out a threat to floyd and he knows that. A loss would be devastating to floyds empire. Everything he has built and how he has marketed himself can come crumbling down at the hands of manny.

Avoiding Manny has always been the smart business move for floyd. Not only breaking his zero loss record but it would destroy everything floyd claims to be.

And manny has the motivation and skills to do it. I don't blame floyd for wanting to stay away.

The guy is 38 years old, if u know anything about boxing u could've read from Floyd's body language and facial expression during the Maidana fight that he didn't want to be there fighting, he only has 2 fights left with showtime, why wouldn't he want to cash out by fighting Pacquiao twice and risking taking a L instead of having to go through training and fighting again for much less money? What would a L do to his career anyway, he's already on his way out anyway, he doesn't need to market himself as the undefeated fighter anymore cuz simply he wouldn't need to market himself at all after a fight with Pacquiao, he can for damn sure retire after that with all the money plus being called a atg instead of being called a coward for the rest of his life!

Basic commonsense!

[jbpanama]

I hate to bring up the facts to you, but Mayweather donates to charity as well (and has paid for boxers funerals-Hernandez and Frazier,etc) and Manny had such a bad ******** problem that he had to BORROW money from Arum....that's a fact.

Floyd and Pac live the SAME lifestyle-they just play differently to the media.

I guess you forgot that when Manny had a new sports car he had to display it to the public as well. If you keep your eyes open they live the same lifestyle.

Manny was knocking up hookers, cheating on his wife left right and center as well as ******** himself broke. Neither guy is TRULY a role model in the strictest sense....it is all about the good that the media has shown and what you choose to put your stock into.

People buy into the rags to riches story from Pac, but easily forgot that Mayweather was poor also and worked hard through boxing to provide for his family as well-BOTH guys have had their share of struggles...it is all what you choose to buy into and whom you choose to praise.

Ha Ha Ha...FRAUD the Family Man...
Remember when He evicted His Father, FRAUD Sr. from a Home He owned???

[damned1974]

Agree with you about the maidana rematch it wasnt needed floyd won the first one but was tested at times due to maidana's style. That second offer was complete and total bs. Floyd even says that he offered manny 40 mil FLAT 20 now 20 later and there was never any talk of back end from ppv and 35% upside unless you want to believe what stephen espinoza says which is bias as hell check his twitter he is constantly bashing hbo and top rank. The first negotiations was Freddies fault he came out and said it but think about it out of no where floyd wants random olympic style drug testing done by a organization that floyd picks i would have said F U just because he and his family were throwing out accusations to make people turn on manny. In the defamation law suit Manny's lawyers even tried to get Floyd's covered up failed test from 3 fights but no one talks about that FLoyd settled. I said in my post both are to blame but even floyd's own father said that Floyd may not know if he can beat Manny so maybe there is something there with floyd being scared to fight him or unsure if he would win. Anyone who defends Floyd will always bring up just TWO negotiations but its been 5 years of excuses from Floyd and no one brings up that Manny has agreed to everything floyd wants.

I gave Floyd credit for fighting Canelo but it was forced on him because of his crappy ppv and floyd knew he would take out the youngster. At least Manny Fought marquez twice Fought Bradley twice and Rios was his comeback fight. Marquez top 5 P4P Bradley top 5 P4P in the rematch and was undefeated. In the end though both of them have run out off opponents that we has fans want so they need to fight eachother.

Canelo fight wasn't FORCED. Odd that you think that. There were no lengthy negotiations with Canelo and no dramas-all was agreed to rather swiftly. It is hard for fans to say the fight was forced or Mayweather was scared of Alvarez (and there were plenty who said this), then once Mayweather beats him, he was too green, slow, yada yada....you however are being level headed on this topic and gave him props, so this excludes you-kinda.

Manny on the other hand, has had numerous problems in negotiations....not just with Mayweather either.

Yes, people will reference the two negotiations that took place-because they are really the only negotiations that occurred. Both times Manny walked.

You praise Manny for having to fight JMM 4 times, Bradley 2X, etc? I'm not a big fan of rematches that I believe do not warrant it. The Bradley fight was kinda weird, the rematch uncalled for....waste of time, but Manny got to reclaim a belt (even though fighters like Pac and Floyd are levels above needing belts for legitimacy). To think if Floyd gave JMM a rematch...this whole forum would be saying how big of a cherry pick this is, yet they are glory for Manny...it's a double standard.

The whole "covered up" drug testing is rumour. Let's not forget there were PLENTY of rumours circulating about Pac...from getting injections up his rump with PEDS, to asking if he can hide testing results for the better of boxing-ala the Atlas e-mails, his lies and excuses initially regarding drug testing....it reeks of su****ion.

[damned1974]

Ha Ha Ha...FRAUD the Family Man...
Remember when He evicted His Father, FRAUD Sr. from a Home He owned???

Contribute to a debate or go bore someone else. That is all the time I give to attention seekers who cannot get it with smarts.

Sounds like you only see what you want to. As I said-BOTH guys are hardly role models.

[jbpanama]

At least he fought a bigger guy like Canelo...that's a good fight...at the time MANY people thought Canelo had a chance. It was not FORCED upon him and there were no big dramas about taking the fight.When is the last time Pac fought somebody who even 30% of people thought his opponent had a strong chance?
Hell, why wouldn't Pac at least take a fight with someone the public has called for? If the Floyd fight doesn't pan out, I can promise you NOBODY wants a Vargas/Pac fight or any other Top Rank opponent for Manny (ala Mikey Garcia, Jessie Vargas, or any other lighter weight potential opponents that have been hinted as potential future opponents for Pac).

The Maidana fight didn't warrant a rematch, BUT you have dumb*****s who said Maidana did enough and deserved the rematch directly after the fight. When guys like Maidana are called cherry-picks, what the hell are fights with Rios or Algeiri???? truth is, they either need to fight eachother or give the younger fighters a chance-simple as that.

As far as saying Floyd didn't want the fight...well, that's kinda goofy considering that it is an actual fact that he initiated the 2 negotiations. Not in his words, not in opinion, but factual.

We know why the first negotiations broke down-it was over randomized drug testing.Manny also wanted to only be tested 3 times in which he picked the dates....so it's hard to blame Mayweather here.

When Pac was offered $40,000,000 plus 35% backside-it is hard to blame Mayweather. The truth is, people can say Floyd is "pricing himself out", but in reality and in business, isn't Manny pricing himself out????

When did FRAUD offer Pac 40 Mil +35%...
U should check, Your Facts, Amigo

[jbpanama]

Contribute to a debate or go bore someone else. That is all the time I give to attention seekers who cannot get it with smarts.

Sounds like you only see what you want to. As I said-BOTH guys are hardly role models.

Says U, the Fact less Chump...

Tell us again about, the $40 million + 35% Offer....DUMBO???

Better yet provide a link, to prove your not the Idiot, U appear to be...

[jbpanama]

The guy is 38 years old, if u know anything about boxing u could've read from Floyd's body language and facial expression during the Maidana fight that he didn't want to be there fighting, he only has 2 fights left with showtime, why wouldn't he want to cash out by fighting Pacquiao twice and risking taking a L instead of having to go through training and fighting again for much less money? What would a L do to his career anyway, he's already on his way out anyway, he doesn't need to market himself as the undefeated fighter anymore cuz simply he wouldn't need to market himself at all after a fight with Pacquiao, he can for damn sure retire after that with all the money plus being called a atg instead of being called a coward for the rest of his life!

Basic commonsense!

True Story...
FRAUD is going through the Motions...
but dosen't enjoy, the Grind anymore...

Be interesting to see how his Ego Deals with the Beating that Pac Puts on Him???

[jbpanama]

Umm...tell me how Floyd negotiating this fight several times equates to hiding. Looking at your picture tells me all I need to know why you are biased.

Funny ****...FRAUD's negotiated several offers over the years...???

Looks like the News dosen't get to U Cat's Down Under...

All FRAUD's Unreasonable Demands, to AVOID the Best,
escapes U...HUGH???

[HeroBando]

Canelo fight wasn't FORCED. Odd that you think that. There were no lengthy negotiations with Canelo and no dramas-all was agreed to rather swiftly. It is hard for fans to say the fight was forced or Mayweather was scared of Alvarez (and there were plenty who said this), then once Mayweather beats him, he was too green, slow, yada yada....you however are being level headed on this topic and gave him props, so this excludes you-kinda.

Manny on the other hand, has had numerous problems in negotiations....not just with Mayweather either.

Yes, people will reference the two negotiations that took place-because they are really the only negotiations that occurred. Both times Manny walked.

You praise Manny for having to fight JMM 4 times, Bradley 2X, etc? I'm not a big fan of rematches that I believe do not warrant it. The Bradley fight was kinda weird, the rematch uncalled for....waste of time, but Manny got to reclaim a belt (even though fighters like Pac and Floyd are levels above needing belts for legitimacy). To think if Floyd gave JMM a rematch...this whole forum would be saying how big of a cherry pick this is, yet they are glory for Manny...it's a double standard.

The whole "covered up" drug testing is rumour. Let's not forget there were PLENTY of rumours circulating about Pac...from getting injections up his rump with PEDS, to asking if he can hide testing results for the better of boxing-ala the Atlas e-mails, his lies and excuses initially regarding drug testing....it reeks of su****ion.

Dont forget Floyd demanded a CW vs Canelo, after 2 stints as Sww champ and slandering Pac for Cw in his 7th division. Cotto undefeated, remember?

40m flat is a slap in the face, gtfo.

Theres no double standard. Jmm is Pacs toughest matchup and perrenial p4p. Always make great fights together. Bradley was p4p even before the Pac robbery. Bradley 2 is p4p best win of 2014. Maidana was in back end of top 10 at ww and never won a legit belt at jww. Shut out by Devon, outboxed by Khan, Kotelnik, all kinds of issues with 3x shot, one eyed Morales

Both guys probably used or still use Peds, but only one slandered other for years for it. Typical Floyd. How does this guy have fans, what do you think?

[gdghunter06]

Dont forget Floyd demanded a CW vs Canelo, after 2 stints as Sww champ and slandering Pac for Cw in his 7th division. Cotto undefeated, remember?

40m flat is a slap in the face, gtfo.

Theres no double standard. Jmm is Pacs toughest matchup and perrenial p4p. Always make great fights together. Bradley was p4p even before the Pac robbery. Bradley 2 is p4p best win of 2014. Maidana was in back end of top 10 at ww and never won a legit belt at jww. Shut out by Devon, outboxed by Khan, Kotelnik, all kinds of issues with 3x shot, one eyed Morales

Both guys probably used or still use Peds, but only one slandered other for years for it. Typical Floyd. How does this guy have fans, what do you think?

It's the usual response floyd fans have... "But but he tried to make the fight" he offered pac who was at that time p4p 1b to Mayweather 1a and who the hell does floyd think he is offering manny a deal he was being paid by golden boy this was before mayweather promotions had an llc so where was floyd coming from with this "40 million offer" again Floyd will say whatever it takes to make it look like he wants the fight. He negotiated in reality ONE time for this fight and it was broken up by drug testing that HE requested because his daddy's fighter got knocked the hell out and it was impossible for someone to be that good without ped's oh and I get to choose the testing organization get the hell out of here.

And like this Floyd fan said its all RUMORS about Floyds blood test fails but isn't that cute how Floyd can have rumors and it's obviously not true because there's no proof but because manny refused drug testing automatically he's guilty by Floyd fans. It looks more su****ious that Floyd settled the lawsuit before his dirty tests were brought to light by subpoena from mannys lawyers.