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i hear you on that. If i was manny i'd be mad too. That said, tyson asked for holyfield to be tested for steriods as well before their second fight, so its not like it was unprecedented. But would you walk away from that much money because of it? lol they could test my nose hairs inbetween rounds if it meant i could make a payday like that.
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Pacquaio did agree to the testing my man. Remember they had the arbitrator involved and they agreed to the testing but wanted a 14 day cutoff before fight night. Floyd balked and they said 7 days but no sooner and that was that. You guys act like he just said no way and walked away. Not agreeing at all and agreeing but wanting a cutoff date are two different things.Comment
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What is it you are missing?
Floyd don't want to work with arum not in 2009 not now not ever. so all your argument is null and void.
and if this does not answer your question, it is not just "Floyd don't want to work with arum" you are missing. but something inside that thick skull of yoursComment
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I mean when it comes to other fighters people say Haymon will get you the fight you want if you want it. I'm sure everyone wants the fight, there just seems to be some timing issues on this newer negotiation.
He's trying to launch this new venture
Pac-Arum are pressuring
Canelo-GBP pressuring
A Cotto fight offers a historical component at MW that Pac doesn't
Cotto could lose to a legit 160 and that fight would be gone
He says he will retire in 2 fights but I believe (hunch) that is BS - he will fight in the new arena in Vegas next May and I bet they are trying to figure out who that might for the possible 50-0
A lot of logistics to be considered on Floyd's side...they've got to be the ones holding it up this time.Comment
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thats the thing, no they didnt. i dont know where people got that from. This is some of the things i found on this:
After hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date, which Team Pacquiao had agreed to after it was discovered that he had given blood 24 days prior to his May 2nd bout with Ricky Hatton. "The proposal that the mediator put forth and recommended the Mayweather camp was very simple: They would be allowed to do the blood-testing within up to 24 days of the fight, and the tests would be supervised, pursuant to the guidines of the Nevada State Athletic Commission's jurisdiction, and that they [Mayweather's camp] would give a statement of full apology in regard to comments made about Manny and their false allegations that he had been taking performance enhancing drugs. I was informed by Arum about 30 minutes ago that that was flatly refused by the Mayweather people, and that's a rejection of the recommendation of the arbitrator, so we're not going to stay around and wait, because we have nothing to negotiatiate," said Pacquiao's advisor Michael Koncz
and then this:
Despite the fact that Team Pacquiao walked away from negotiations and were set to sign a contract to face Joshua Clottey, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer still held out hope that a bout with Mayweather could be made, suggesting that Pacquiao himself was never made aware that Mayweather was willing to agree to a 14-day cut-off date. "There are reports [on the Internet] that Manny is not aware of this and we want to make certain that he knows what Floyd has agreed to do," Schaefer said. Evidently, on December 30, Golden Boy executive Bruce Binkow offered a 14-day cut-off via text message to Top Rank president Todd duBoef, who simply replied on the following day, "14 is no good." Pacquiao's advisor Michael Koncz confirmed that promoter Bob Arum contacted him with the offer, but Pacquiao himself turned it down. "Bob called and told us about the 14 days and I brought that to Manny and he said, 'I told you, we're not agreeing to that,' and that was pretty much it," Koncz said.Comment
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why i gotta have a thick skull tho? lol. hell until recently neither did oscar. Of course i understand what your saying. I feel like thats one of the main reasons cotto didnt happen bacc then and only after cotto left bob. Again though, if floyd didnt want THIS fight, why go through all the trouble? Why did he ask greenburg to make the fight? Remember Floyd went after manny first, not the other way around. I guess thats what im getting at. Not trying to rile you up or anything bruhComment
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i done messed around and turned this into a dam May/pac thing. My apologies fellas. Wasnt my intentComment
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Oscar left Arum and made fights he wanted.
Floyd left Arum and made fights he wanted.
Cotto left Arum and made this exact fight cause he wanted and went back.
Pac............says he wants this fight, and precedent has been set of what he could do. When others were in the same position, under the same promoter. He obviously knows what to do if he REALLY wanted to fight Floyd. Pac doesnt really want this fight! Cause he could've simply done what others before him did.
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According to what Arum recently said, it comes down to Money. Pacquiao keeps publicly calling Floyd to fight, saying money isn't an issue, but Arum says it is. If Manny wants the fight, he will have to convince Arum to accept Mayweather's offer, or it won't happen. Plain and simple.Comment
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