Did Oscar call Floyd's bluff?

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #21
    Originally posted by daggum
    if i was oscar i would just have canelo-cotto on the same day as floyd-flat footed fighter. sure you won't make as much but you will sink floyd's ppv and make showtime lose millions upon millions of dollars. you gotta think long term and by destroying showtime's budget canelo and hbo will have a monopoly on the industry going forward.
    So you are one of those guys that likes to sacrifice your queen in chess? It is a good trap that almost always gets taken but there is always a purpose behind such a move.

    What purpose does that serve Oscar? Floyd is not around that long and they have worked fine together same with Showtime. You want him to destroy half of the top end of boxing why? What would Oscar gain from that kind of scorched Earth policy.

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      #22
      lets make this simple: Oscar left Arum and made fights he wanted.
      Floyd left Arum and made fights he wanted.
      Cotto left Arum and made this exact fight cause he wanted and went back.
      Pac............says he wants this fight, and precedent has been set of what he could do. When others were in the same position, under the same promoter. He obviously knows what to do if he REALLY wanted to fight Floyd. Pac doesnt really want this fight! Cause he could've simply done what others before him did or demand Arum (who supposed to work for him) get this fight done or just leave and get the money he needs to stay out of jail by fighting Floyd. Or continue to cry

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        So you are one of those guys that likes to sacrifice your queen in chess? It is a good trap that almost always gets taken but there is always a purpose behind such a move.

        What purpose does that serve Oscar? Floyd is not around that long and they have worked fine together same with Showtime. You want him to destroy half of the top end of boxing why? What would Oscar gain from that kind of scorched Earth policy.
        Revenge...

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        • daggum
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          So you are one of those guys that likes to sacrifice your queen in chess? It is a good trap that almost always gets taken but there is always a purpose behind such a move.

          What purpose does that serve Oscar? Floyd is not around that long and they have worked fine together same with Showtime. You want him to destroy half of the top end of boxing why? What would Oscar gain from that kind of scorched Earth policy.
          boxing is a business remember! destroying your rival is a good business tactic. showtime's budget will be destroyed allowing hbo to get better ratings and also causing showtime/haymon fighters to get mad. some will probably leave showtime and go back to hbo/golden boy since there's not enough money to pay them well. plus if he hates floyd/hamon bad enough its just fun to make them look bad.

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            #25
            Oscar left Arum and made fights he wanted.
            Floyd left Arum and made fights he wanted.
            Cotto left Arum and made this exact fight cause he wanted and went back.
            Pac............says he wants this fight, and precedent has been set of what he could do. When others were in the same position, under the same promoter. He obviously knows what to do if he REALLY wanted to fight Floyd. Pac doesnt really want this fight! Cause he could've simply done what others before him did

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            • MDPopescu
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              #26
              But do ODH and Arum lose money in case "TBE" fights Cotto instead?

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                #27
                Originally posted by daggum
                still blaming arum when everyone but you knows its floyd lol. last man standing reloaded!

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                  Revenge...
                  What does Oscar have to get revenge for against Floyd? Haymon maybe but is that really worth it.


                  If it was Arum making the play sure, but Oscar I don't see it.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    boxing is a business remember! destroying your rival is a good business tactic. showtime's budget will be destroyed allowing hbo to get better ratings and also causing showtime/haymon fighters to get mad. some will probably leave showtime and go back to hbo/golden boy since there's not enough money to pay them well. plus if he hates floyd/hamon bad enough its just fun to make them look bad.
                    Yea it is and Floyd is leaving soon enough so that is a battle he doesn't have to fight like that.

                    Oscar needs Canelo to beat Cotto and he NEEDS it to be splashy, then time is on his side in that game as long as Canelo doesn't drop the ball.

                    He doesn't need to bull**** in other words, and he really is not a bull****ter so him focusing on what he does best making good fights would be the route he should take.

                    The move you are saying is great but there is a ******** saying, having gamble in you is great until you run into someone with more gamble than you then you are going to get destroyed. Do you really think Oscar is the one winning that sort of game, or should he just make his big fight and let that do the talking?

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                    • daggum
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      What does Oscar have to get revenge for against Floyd? Haymon maybe but is that really worth it.


                      If it was Arum making the play sure, but Oscar I don't see it.
                      oscar built up and gave floyd easy golden boy opponents for years and floyd runs off with al haymon. i could see oscar wanting revenge for that.

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