Fighters who have been accused of steroid use.

[Lords]

Amir Khan? no sure he belongs on that list, neither does Pacquiao truth be told.

It's the guys who have failed tests or cheated tests (Tyson) who are most suspect, Holyfield didn't fail or cheat but iirc he was associated with a delivery of PEDs.

Pacquiao doesn't belong on the list? He's the reason why the PED hype in boxing sky rocketed. The thread title is "fighters who have been accused" not "fighters who have been caught".

[MDPopescu]

I'm pretty sure most fighters take steroids.

You must have had an epiphany of some sort?

(... and only the "fighters"?)

[Left Hook Tua]

Do you realize that boxing in the US is a sport regulated by government en******, the state athletic comissions? The NSAC would not sanction a fight, if they would not get the test results from USADA. Plain and simple. By the way: If some athlete would be tested positive and the fight would go on because USADA would not report, that would have a major possibility of a lawsuit. Against the athlete tested positive and USADA.

yeah but usada extra testing isn't part of those state commission tests.

not sure how it works. does the AC take charge of testing it didn't require?

usada can share it but are they under obligation to? considering the AC or org wasn't the one who hired them?

or are they hired for the AC by the fighters who are requesting it and paying for it?

[Left Hook Tua]

So mayweather is on ped's cause he is working with ariza, but pacquiao is not or was not on ped's and he worked with ariza for a long time.....delusional pac kok rider gtfoh

actually he's just being a smart ass.

floyd fans always accused ariza of being dirty when he was with pac so.....

kinda like the catchweight thing. most pac fans don't care but they bring it up when floyd does it.

floyd doesn't do his nuthuggers any favors.

[HughJass]

Some of the things we're seeing/going through is remarkable.Surely we have some more evidence to dig up.

Thought this was interesting,although it's tennis.

Former No1 Marcelo Rios speaking on steroids.

Rios stated that he suspected the ATP protects high-profile Americans of doping: "I know that if nandrolone were found on (Andre) Agassi, they would not disclose it. He is a very prominent, very popular player and if he were to fall, the world of tennis would fall with him.

Is the bold why Floyd hasn't been ousted?

[gee73]

yeah but usada extra testing isn't part of those state commission tests.

not sure how it works. does the AC take charge of testing it didn't require?

usada can share it but are they under obligation to? considering the AC or org wasn't the one who hired them?

or are they hired for the AC by the fighters who are requesting it and paying for it?

If agreed with the fighters and with the AC agree USADA tests can replace the tests by the commission. Commission tests are mostly standard piss tests. At the time of Mayweather vs. Mosley USADA critizised the NSAC for sloppy testing procedures like just using urine tests and not blood and urine tests. Testing between training camps was very rare as well. This had changed at least a bit in the last years.

The costs of drug testing have to be covered by athletes and/or promoters. It's not cheap at all.

Regarding the test reports I'm not 100 % sure. It's a complicated thing. There is always the possibility that if test reports by USADA aren't submitted to the AC that the AC will refuse to sanction the fight. It should be pointed out that USADA is funded/supported by the government. There is a mutual interest in sharing these reports. There is the possibility that the AC handles the drug testing with USADA but USADA itself hires Doping Collection Companies to collect the samples. AC's normally have their own collectors and can use WADA accredited labs, such as the USADA one in Utah. AC's unlike WADA don't have a special athlete system and things like a blood passport.



To those people who are riding on that vampire facelift thing:
You need like 50 ml blood for this, which is spiecially processed. You usually use much more for blood doping. Typically you are on EPO to enhance red blood cells and than have the blood taken and processed. I don't get how some people think this is the same...

[LA_2_Vegas]

Not my opinion - but I've seen Khan and Adderall mentioned before by people who claim to have an eye for that sort of thing. Nothing substantive, just hearsay

[gee73]

Rios stated that he suspected the ATP protects high-profile Americans of doping: "I know that if nandrolone were found on (Andre) Agassi, they would not disclose it. He is a very prominent, very popular player and if he were to fall, the world of tennis would fall with him.

Is the bold why Floyd hasn't been ousted?

Marcelo Rios, probably the best source for a topic like this....
Busted for a party drug, lost to Petr Korda at the Australian Open Finale 1998 who got busted the same year in Wimbledon for nandrolone...
Boxing and tennis can't be compared. Unlike boxing which is unarmed combat and needs an exception from the law in an regulated environment tennis is basically unregulated. It comes down to how the drug testing is handled...

[LouIE G]

Ive heard that floyd failed sum test before, but thats all speculative because he hasnt failed a test openly before.. But if for some reason he was "Blood Doping" dont you guys think his 2 performances against maidana would have been more dominant??? Floyd has slipped dramatically in the last 2 fights, i would contribute that to a fighter who is ageing, rather then a fighter who is taking enhancement drugs.

But if he is he is, what the *** do i or any of you guys know about it! Innocent until proven guilty.

[HughJass]

Marcelo Rios, probably the best source for a topic like this....
Busted for a party drug, lost to Petr Korda at the Australian Open Finale 1998 who got busted the same year in Wimbledon for nandrolone...
Boxing and tennis can't be compared. Unlike boxing which is unarmed combat and needs an exception from the law in an regulated environment tennis is basically unregulated. It comes down to how the drug testing is handled...