Rewatched Marquez vs Alvarado fight

[Doctor_Tenma]

Just so you see he wasn't as powerful as people are making it out.



Rios and Provodnikov had Alvarado on his bike, where as Alvarado stood close enough to return fire against Marquez.

I thought Marquez' hand speed looked very good, definitely better than it looked against Bradley. Even though I rooted against Marquez (Bradley fan here) Marquez should have entered the ring very light, that would have helped him considerably.

[Aztekkas]

Marquez vs Mayweather

Marquez vs Pacquiao


Marquez vs Alvarado

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Tell me he looks the same in all these photos. That fourth pacquiao fight weigh in doe..lol his power was over 9000..the mayweather one was pre-memo and the Alvarado he was tapering off, his doping was becoming too obvious.

I could almost see Hulkez turning green on the second pic, undeniable proof of him roiding

[gamesworn]

Lol Some Flowmos here protecting Marquez. You know who you are.

Hiring Memo alone is a big factor that he's on peds.

[Lineal Champ]

Just so you see he wasn't as powerful as people are making it out.



Rios and Provodnikov had Alvarado on his bike, where as Alvarado stood close enough to return fire against Marquez.

I thought Marquez' hand speed looked very good, definitely better than it looked against Bradley. Even though I rooted against Marquez (Bradley fan here) Marquez should have entered the ring very light, that would have helped him considerably.

What are you talking about. Just take a look at round 8 when 40 year old Marquez sends Alvarado through the ropes with one punch from mid ring. When have you every seen him do that before Memo?

[Doctor_Tenma]

What are you talking about. Just take a look at round 8 when 40 year old Marquez sends Alvarado through the ropes with one punch from mid ring. When have you every seen him do that?

Sarcasm right? I'm not good with those so I'm fearful. People act as though Alvarado was airborne, the guy was trying to catch his balance

[ADP02]

I dont know why people claim marquez is on anything, he taking olympic, vada, comission, everything and never once failed.

The issue is that he hired a known PEDs expert who admitted to cheating and admitted that he knows of 20 ways to mask his PEDs.



Victor Conte @VictorConte

JMM is 40 yrs old w/ muslces popping out, acne all over his chest, @Guruscience Memo as his trainer & @BobArum & boxing do get it.

[mneronava2k]

Mention Marquez on boxing scene and watch all the dummies come out and whine.

Innocent until proven guilty... Unless you're Marquez

Here's some fanboy logic:
Manny is clean with Fortune (although freddy called him a cheat)
Manny is clean with Ariza (Although freddy is skeptical)
Floyd is clean with Ariza (although he's called out Ariza
Conte is a trustworthy guy (although memo ratted on Conte and that's why memo doesn't trust Vada)
Floyd has dirty fighters in his stable, freddy had Toney and Fortune.

Marquez never came up dirty, has always had a good knock out rate--yet people say "new found power".

I don't mind skepticism, but it seems like people hate Marquez as a person (and because he knocked manny the eff out. Although he hurt Manny every fight except the third fight where he out boxed manny post to post)

I really think we should ban posters who bomb marquez threads with steroid talk. It distracts from any thread about him.

[techliam]

Upset of the Year 2014





.....apparently

[Pain~Lucy]

He also had a tan in the second photo which helps when trying to show definition... And it's no secret he was doing some lifting and working with an S&C coach. Was he roiding? I guess we will never truly know ... I have my su****ions. But he's also stated he's never done any serious lifting in his training/life and he didn't use the methods against mayweather that he did against PAC and Marquez training wise, which may have been enough to make the difference you see in his physique... Which is noticeable but I wouldn't say drastic.

the acne is because he's bathing his pee, same with his power, he's drinking his pee right?

[Aztekkas]

Mention Marquez on boxing scene and watch all the dummies come out and whine.

Innocent until proven guilty... Unless you're Marquez

Here's some fanboy logic:
Manny is clean with Fortune (although freddy called him a cheat)
Manny is clean with Ariza (Although freddy is skeptical)
Floyd is clean with Ariza (although he's called out Ariza
conte is a trustworthy guy (although conte ratted on him and that's why memo doesn't trust Vada)
Floyd has dirty fighters in his stable, freddy had Toney and Fortune.

Marquez never came up dirty, has always had a good knock out rate--yet people say "new found power".

I don't mind skepticism, but it seems like people hate Marquez as a person (and because he knocked manny the eff out. Although he hurt Manny every fight except the third fight where he out boxed manny post to post)

I really think we should ban posters who bomb marquez threads with steroid talk. It distracts from any thread about him.

Excellent, excellent post. I agree with everything said. Green K.