Why is Cotto ranked No.1 at Middleweight?

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  • Rath
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    #21
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Laughing at Pacquiao snoring on the mat isn't passing credit to Mayweather.
    so you never heard of the triangle theory Floyd fans blabbering about?

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    • bigjavi973
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      #22
      Originally posted by Shinkyokushin92
      Why is Cotto ranked No.1 at Middleweight over Gennady Golovkin just because he beat Sergio Martinez.

      Anybody knows that Golovkin could have done the same thing, but Martinez was too scared to get in the ring with him. Also, it is quite obvious that Golovkin would destroy Cotto…well at least that is what I think.

      But the main reason for saying this is that Cotto is not even willing to defend his title at 160 pounds against other top middleweights. How can he call himself a champion when he hasn't even won a fight at that division.
      cry me a river. they almost have the same amount of fights and are almost the same age yet cotto has accomplished more in his career.

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      • SergioMartinez
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        #23
        He beat Sergio Martinez, who was the lineal Middleweight Champ of the world.

        Yes, not the most exciting or most hyped MW, that goes to Gennady Glovokin, but everyone knew Martinez as the true MW champ.

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          #24
          Cotto is the lineal champ. Lineal however, does not mean undisputed.

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          • GoldenGloveLove
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            #25
            Because he is the number one fighter until proven otherwise. This is not an opinion. This is a fact.

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            • boliodogs
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              #26
              Cotto is officially the world lineal middleweight champ because he beat Martinez who was widely recognized as the world middleweight champ. You have to put the champion at #1 and his top challenger just below him. It doesn't mean that anybody seriously believes Cotto could beat GGG. Almost everybody knows GGG is the best middleweight in the world and the uncrowned true middleweight champion of the world.

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              • soul_survivor
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                #27
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                How are going to include Boone, a guy Kovalev beat twice and not include Campillo?

                Rankings are supposed to reflect the present. Stevenson is really where he is for beating Dawson in early 2013, it's 2015 already. His contribution this year is a laboured win over a lower top 10 guy in Fonfara, and a no-mark in Sukhotsky.

                The point, however, is Stevenson could fight any bum he wanted under this rankings system and STILL retain the #1 position while Kovalev KO'd the entire top 10. It's a ridiculous system as gmc said.

                I do agree though, that Golovkin has a stronger argument.
                Im looking at Stevs 175 run and Kovalevs run since being champ, from the top of my head, I dont think Kova defended his title against Campillo?

                My point is an objective one, there isn't much in it. But if you all gotta hate then whatever

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Shinkyokushin92
                  Why is Cotto ranked No.1 at Middleweight over Gennady Golovkin just because he beat Sergio Martinez.

                  Anybody knows that Golovkin could have done the same thing, but Martinez was too scared to get in the ring with him. Also, it is quite obvious that Golovkin would destroy Cotto…well at least that is what I think.

                  But the main reason for saying this is that Cotto is not even willing to defend his title at 160 pounds against other top middleweights. How can he call himself a champion when he hasn't even won a fight at that division.
                  carlos ****ing molina could've probably done the same thing that night vs sergio

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                  • Pugilist95
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                    #29
                    He beat the man that beat the man. The term lineal is pretty meaningless in this era though, too many titles/paper champs.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by boliodogs
                      Cotto is officially the world lineal middleweight champ because he beat Martinez who was widely recognized as the world middleweight champ. You have to put the champion at #1 and his top challenger just below him. It doesn't mean that anybody seriously believes Cotto could beat GGG. Almost everybody knows GGG is the best middleweight in the world and the uncrowned true middleweight champion of the world.
                      Then it is rather silly and pointless wouldn't you say? But still they do it.

                      Men who know fine well that the lineal champ isn't the best will put him on top. Wtf for? it's so ******.

                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      Im looking at Stevs 175 run and Kovalevs run since being champ, from the top of my head, I dont think Kova defended his title against Campillo?

                      My point is an objective one, there isn't much in it. But if you all gotta hate then whatever
                      Well Boone was before Stevenson was champ.

                      Not hating, broadly in a agreement, but I think a proper rankings system unreliant on "lineal" stuff would have dropped Stevenson a place this year, perhaps even two.

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