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  • Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
    The bottom line is that the Martinez win has put Cotto in line for another big fight and huge payday.

    Not to long ago Martinez was a legit threat to Floyd but now there is only a lot of ppl crying when the vast majority including myself thought that Cotto was going to lose.
    i knew cotto was gonna dispose the martinez that wore knee braces, i knew it, what i didnt think to ever imagine was the simple fact that cotto lost to trout, austin trout, i said austin trout, lol, he beat cotto with ease at cottos middleweight reign, lol,

    i was completely right about the cotto martinez ,easy to guess, i was in shock when somebody like trout easily defeated cotto, you were probably too, lol, that is one sad fact we both cant change, lol,

    i know you get easily mad but i said nothing wrong just facts, if you get mad, you can stay mad, lol, youll be mad and i would care less, lol, remember, trout beat cotto and i knew that your boy was gonna destroy the marinez that wore knee braces as soon as i saw martinez gimp inside the ring, trout beat cotto, fact, u cant change it

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    • Originally posted by mathed View Post
      Poll didn't really provide for a neutral answer. I put that Sergio was done but there should be an answer for the win was legit but Sergio's knees gave him issues and he wasn't prime or something to that effect. I was impressed with Cotto but Sergio is so gone now that he can't even fight a non-contender and would rather default to retirement.
      but it does show that by a 50 to 30 margin, people felt that cotto fought a cripple, lol, if anything either than irritate cotto fans for reminding them that they dont exactly validate this fight vs martinez as a legit healthy martinez win, lol, it at least shows how people feel how far away that martinez is from his prime

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      • Originally posted by mathed View Post
        Poll didn't really provide for a neutral answer. I put that Sergio was done but there should be an answer for the win was legit but Sergio's knees gave him issues and he wasn't prime or something to that effect. I was impressed with Cotto but Sergio is so gone now that he can't even fight a non-contender and would rather default to retirement.
        That was purposely done because I didn't want a political answer. I wanted people to pick a side and elaborate on why they felt that way.

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        • Originally posted by StopCrying... View Post
          There is NO conclusive proof that Martinez knee was the issue on the night his temple refused to handle a Cotto hook. You kids act like Martinez resume was pure gold? Why don't you kids question the fact that Martinez beat a staph infection having, rehab needing Pavlik? Or a bum Chavez Jr who trained for 5 days? You are so on the Martinez jock for that haymaker he landed on Williams that you kids think Martinez was better than he actually was. I said it before the Cotto fight; Martinez had not faced anyone as good as Cotto and the end result was him getting starched. Even a bum @ss Margarito KO'd Martinez on GOOD knees so why are we acting like Martinez was Duran?

          The same people who claim Cotto fans have excuses, are the same who make excuses for their acne chested 40 year old KO hero. The same ones who cry about Lucas "eye" doe. The same ones who cry about their idol being "shot." The same clowns who like to say silly sh$t like "take da test."
          "peeleft:
          There is NO conclusive proof that Marg had the wraps against Cotto THAT night either. Yet, we still crucify Margcheato and his cheating ways because we're not dumb. You Cotto **** sure like to see things in your ways alone huh? What are you gonna say next, Cotto was dehydrated vs Pac. GTFO.

          The whole f**** talk about Sergio was his knees before the fight. Can you deny that? He went through tests yet again after the fight and Sergio himself said his knees are badly damaged. Even Pablo Sarmiento said his knees weren't responding during the last round. Cotto beat up a ESPN fighter in Delvin and took a calculated risk with Sergio and won both fights. And before that he got his ass handed to him by Trout. Put Cotto in there with Ginger and/or Canelo and we'll truly see if hes "back" after the beating Floyd put on him. Until then get off his d***.

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          • Originally posted by Tha_Greatest View Post
            i knew cotto was gonna dispose the martinez that wore knee braces, i knew it, what i didnt think to ever imagine was the simple fact that cotto lost to trout, austin trout, i said austin trout, lol, he beat cotto with ease at cottos middleweight reign, lol,

            i was completely right about the cotto martinez ,easy to guess, i was in shock when somebody like trout easily defeated cotto, you were probably too, lol, that is one sad fact we both cant change, lol,

            i know you get easily mad but i said nothing wrong just facts, if you get mad, you can stay mad, lol, youll be mad and i would care less, lol, remember, trout beat cotto and i knew that your boy was gonna destroy the marinez that wore knee braces as soon as i saw martinez gimp inside the ring, trout beat cotto, fact, u cant change it
            Austin Trout is a good fighter, don't know why your talking like he's complete shlt. Canelo got a gift decision against the guy so it isn't like he's straight garbage. Trout fought a good fight against Cotto fighting from the outside using his long reach advantage while not letting Cotto come in. Reminded me of Winkey against Tito.

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            • Originally posted by jcj0427 View Post
              There is NO conclusive proof that Marg had the wraps against Cotto THAT night either. Yet, we still crucify Margcheato and his cheating ways because we're not dumb. You Cotto **** sure like to see things in your ways alone huh? What are you gonna say next, Cotto was dehydrated vs Pac. GTFO.

              The whole f**** talk about Sergio was his knees before the fight. Can you deny that? He went through tests yet again after the fight and Sergio himself said his knees are badly damaged. Even Pablo Sarmiento said his knees weren't responding during the last round. Cotto beat up a ESPN fighter in Delvin and took a calculated risk with Sergio and won both fights. And before that he got his ass handed to him by Trout. Put Cotto in there with Ginger and/or Canelo and we'll truly see if hes "back" after the beating Floyd put on him. Until then get off his d***.
              Your an idiot if you think the cheater only used his loaded wraps against an old as$ Shane but not a prime undefeated champion in Cotto. "gtfo"

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              • Originally posted by Lords View Post
                Austin Trout is a good fighter, don't know why your talking like he's complete shlt. Canelo got a gift decision against the guy so it isn't like he's straight garbage. Trout fought a good fight against Cotto fighting from the outside using his long reach advantage while not letting Cotto come in. Reminded me of Winkey against Tito.
                of course youre gonna say trout is a good fighter, lol, youre a cotto fan, lol, that is why i always say cotto fans are always embarassed about that fight, lol, they want to think of trout as a good fighter in order to validify in a propagandic way as cotto is still a contender status, lol, lol, co

                besides cotto shouldnt have even lost that fight, it was shokking when cotto got easily beaten on the score and handled by trout, austin trout, lol, you saw cotto embarassed, he ran outta the ring embarassed about giving a interview about him getting beaten by a gime fight in trout, lol, fact

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                • Originally posted by Lords View Post
                  Your an idiot if you think the cheater only used his loaded wraps against an old as$ Shane but not a prime undefeated champion in Cotto. "gtfo"
                  Do you know what the word "conclusive" means you clown? If it is not conclusive, it cannot be 100% guaranteed that he used them against Cotto. It only came into question after Margacheato got caught against Mosley.

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                  • Originally posted by Tha_Greatest View Post
                    but it does show that by a 50 to 30 margin, people felt that cotto fought a cripple, lol, if anything either than irritate cotto fans for reminding them that they dont exactly validate this fight vs martinez as a legit healthy martinez win, lol, it at least shows how people feel how far away that martinez is from his prime
                    I definitely want to give Cotto all the credit that can be given for this win, I did think he looked very good in this fight. However (as we all knew this sentence would begin something like this), yeah.......Sergio was not even 85% of himself just a year earlier in my estimation. At first, I thought I was selling Cotto short but I rewatched the fight several times and each time I did, I kept seeing a worse and worse Martinez until the point where I thought to myself, man, you are just seeing it this way because you wanted Martinez to win, so I just said to myself, Sergio wasn't 100% and Cotto looked good.....that's all I've got.

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                    • Originally posted by fallen_ego View Post
                      That was purposely done because I didn't want a political answer. I wanted people to pick a side and elaborate on why they felt that way.
                      I can see that but I wanted to find some neutral ground for this fight. I am a pretty big fan of Cotto and an admitted Sergio nuthugger, so I try my best to find a common stance. Given the choices though, Sergio was FAR less than 100% and I find it hard to believe that anyone would say that he was unless there was a distinct agenda in play.

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