Comments Thread For: Malignaggi Still Questions Pacquiao/PED Connection

[Cinci Champ]

Pac fought Marquez @ 130lbs March 15, 2008, David Diaz @ 135lbs June 28, 2008, Dela Hoya @ 145 December 6, 2008, then Hatton @ 140lbs May 2, 2009 (cinco de mayo-DISRESPECTFUL!!)

All the fights i mentioned above happened in a 14 month time-frame and spans 4 weight divisions, Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Welterweight, then back down to Jr Welter for Hatton. These fights took place while Pac was on those Ariza "mystery shakes"

4 divs in 14 months is rather impressive for a guy with a small frame, im curious about how Pac was able to carry his power while climbing weights, but then again speed can translate to power in some instances,

and with the added bulk how he was able to maintain a high workrate/punch output without gassing down the stretch, because as we all know more muscle requires more oxygen, but then again the Diaz, Oscar and Hatton fights disnt go the distance.

Just a few variables you may or may not consider

Imo Pacs speed was the special ingredient in his climb up the scales, with his body not completely accustomed to those bigger weights he able to still harness speed but once his body conformed to the weight, plus age, his speed and output declined, hence no KOs since 2009

i dont think anyone is questioning that hes a real talent ped or not its not baseball ped does not make u a hall of fame boxer

[slipcatchroll]

i dont think anyone is questioning that hes a real talent ped or not its not baseball ped does not make u a hall of fame boxer

It certainly helps though make no mistake about that

[DLee22]

Well

You dont go 6 for 8 in stoppages and then Get accused of PEDS and turn around and go 0 for 9 in Stoppages. Name 1 fighter who's had such extreme KO% fluctuation over a 17 fight period.There is a Ton of reasons to point to Manny being a dirty fighter at one point in time. And since he didnt test immediately when the chance arosein 2009/10 and chose to years later down the line. It an obvious situation in my opinion.

[wlliam]

i dont think anyone is questioning that hes a real talent ped or not its not baseball ped does not make u a hall of fame boxer

I agree with you about PEDs not translating to talent, but PEDs give ANY athlete an unfair advantage and thats where it becomes questionable and simply wrong. Im not accusing Pac of using im just stating that cases for him being on PEDs and not being on PEDs can be made

[Weebler I]

You dont go 6 for 8 in stoppages and then Get accused of PEDS and turn around and go 0 for 9 in Stoppages. Name 1 fighter who's had such extreme KO% fluctuation over a 17 fight period.There is a Ton of reasons to point to Manny being a dirty fighter at one point in time. And since he didnt test immediately when the chance arosein 2009/10 and chose to years later down the line. It an obvious situation in my opinion.

He fought a bunch of come-forward fighters, then fought a bunch of runners.

No mystery, it's easier to KO guys you don't have to chase around the ring.

[Rath]

I agree with you about PEDs not translating to talent, but PEDs give ANY athlete an unfair advantage and thats where it becomes questionable and simply wrong. Im not accusing Pac of using im just stating that cases for him being on PEDs and not being on PEDs can be made

you are contradicting yourself.

[Scipio2009]

Does he also question Broners and porters? :AOR: And Khans and Juan Diaz and Hatton and Cotto?

... none of those fighters came up 10 divisions.

[Rath]

... none of those fighters came up 10 divisions.

vargas mosley pederson did not come up 10 division either.

what's your point?

[ADP02]

Poor Paulie, poor Floyd and poor Floyd fans can't believe that someone can be so great to have done what Manny did.

[OutClassed]

Paulie is a born woman, used pills to be a man, but still punches like a bit*h