With blueprints like these is a win over either fighter considered a cherry pick?

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  • SergioMartinez
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    #31
    Originally posted by stnuc=sdratcap
    Everyone is prime if Manny fights them remember and everyone is shit if Floyd does lol
    Lol, Remember how Shane Mosley was back in prime when Pac fought him?
    Although dude was completely shot by the 7th round in Floyds fight, and Sergio Mora really beat Shane but they robbed him.

    Shane was really coming off a 2 fight losing streak.

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    • Larry the boss
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      • davidandrei
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        #33
        no, not a cherry pick. someone posted that the general rule of boxing is to judge a boxer by his last performance. Specifically, that means that even if a boxer has losses, if he can still show he can recover and is still high caliber. Sure, on paper, they have knockout losses but they have shown resiliency and world class level boxing. This goes both ways too though. On paper, a boxer can be undefeated and rule the game for years but if dude aged hard as fawk overnight, surely you cant exactly say the best was beaten. you can say the guy who had the best record was was beaten.

        keep it real though, if these fights happen, is there any outcome to these fights that would not bring out excuses from their fans?

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          #34
          Originally posted by SergioMartinez
          Lol, Remember how Shane Mosley was back in prime when Pac fought him?
          Although dude was completely shot by the 7th round in Floyds fight, and Sergio Mora really beat Shane but they robbed him.

          Shane was really coming off a 2 fight losing streak.
          He was prime doe. Manny knocked him down doe.

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            #35
            Originally posted by davidandrei
            no, not a cherry pick. someone posted that the general rule of boxing is to judge a boxer by his last performance. Specifically, that means that even if a boxer has losses, if he can still show he can recover and is still high caliber. Sure, on paper, they have knockout losses but they have shown resiliency and world class level boxing. This goes both ways too though. On paper, a boxer can be undefeated and rule the game for years but if dude aged hard as fawk overnight, surely you cant exactly say the best was beaten. you can say the guy who had the best record was was beaten.

            keep it real though, if these fights happen, is there any outcome to these fights that would not bring out excuses from their fans?
            You will hear them talked up before the fight to extreme levels but once Floyd beats them there will be even more extreme levels of excuses... also there will be the manhunt for the next to finally beat Floyd lol(the extreme haters will look towards Heavyweights if they have to). It's been the same cycle since Floyd took that Top p4p slot and added his money persona to be also PPV king.

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              #36
              Originally posted by stnuc=sdratcap
              Serious question since every fighter seems to get hyped up to beat Floyd Mayweather and after he wins they get downgraded to excuse after excuse or they were a bum doe. If Floyd fights either one of these fighters (Pacquiao or Khan) is it considered a cherry pick? Does he get credit if he were to beat these fighters?













              He was drained doe. He was young doe. He was weakened by blood draw doe. He had itchy socks doe. Virgil Hunter doe. His chin's not that bad doe. Lucky punch doe.

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                #37
                Floyd wont get credit from the detractors but proof is in the pudding.


                No amount of trolling or ignorance can change history and stone cold facts


                He must be truly great when fighting former champions/title holders back to back isn't good enough and most were top ten when he fought them in their respective weight class to boot. except Sharmba Mitchell wasnt ranked top ten at jww, ww, or jmw



                Since July of 05 Mayweather has fought and beat Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Maidana(2x), Mosley, DLH, COTTO, Hatton, Guerrero, Saul Alvarez, and Marquez

                He defeated 12 top ten contenders in a row and 13 current/former world champions back to back...no one in this era has done that so if you think he is a cherrypicker or thinks he fights only people he thinks he can beat YOU ARE TROLLING AND DKSAB, well NEWSFLASH HE HAS BEEN A WORLD CHAMPION SINCE '98 HE THINKS HE CAN BEAT EVERYONE!!!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  Floyd wont get credit from the detractors but proof is in the pudding.


                  No amount of trolling or ignorance can change history and stone cold facts


                  He must be truly great when fighting former champions/title holders back to back isn't good enough and most were top ten when he fought them in their respective weight class to boot. except Sharmba Mitchell wasnt ranked top ten at jww, ww, or jmw



                  Since July of 05 Mayweather has fought and beat Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Maidana(2x), Mosley, DLH, COTTO, Hatton, Guerrero, Saul Alvarez, and Marquez

                  He defeated 12 top ten contenders in a row and 13 current/former world champions back to back...no one in this era has done that so if you think he is a cherrypicker or thinks he fights only people he thinks he can beat YOU ARE TROLLING AND DKSAB, well NEWSFLASH HE HAS BEEN A WORLD CHAMPION SINCE '98 HE THINKS HE CAN BEAT EVERYONE!!!

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                    #39
                    These guys like the normal rhetoric will be talked up to beat Floyd and that Floyd was scared and was forced into fighting them before the fight. After Floyd beats them they will have been cherry picks, not prime, old, washed up, bums, he's avoiding __ still, etc... pretty much the same cycle since Floyd beat Oscar. Rinse, repeat, and on to the next hoping someone finally beats Floyd.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
                      These guys like the normal rhetoric will be talked up to beat Floyd and that Floyd was scared and was forced into fighting them before the fight. After Floyd beats them they will have been cherry picks, not prime, old, washed up, bums, he's avoiding __ still, etc... pretty much the same cycle since Floyd beat Oscar. Rinse, repeat, and on to the next hoping someone finally beats Floyd.
                      Real shit. Nice avy by the way.

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