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  • -Kev-
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    #21
    Khan was perceived as very good under Roach, beating an old and shot MAB, Salita, Malignaggi, Kotelnyk, all light punchers and finally a puncher in Maidana, who Roach threatened to throw the towel against.

    Then there is also the fact that Khan never in his career rematched the fighters that beat him.

    Molina can't punch, Diaz is a decent puncher and he hurt and almost beat Khan, Alexander can't punch at 147. Basically it's matchmaking. There's nothing wrong with Roach, nothing wrong with Hunter, it's just Khan's punch resistance is **** and his best trainer is a good matchmaker. If he gets a good matchmaker, he can make him his trainer too, cause that's all he needs. Khan has the skills, speed, stamina to train himself, he's a Silver medalist. The matchmakers have to look out for him, there's nothing Roach, Hunter, Nacho, R. Garcia, or any trainer from the past 100 years could do to stop Khan from getting KD'ed from any decent puncher.

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    • HughJass
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      #22
      Everyone talking about how Amir has matured.....His only ever problem was he liked to have a tear-up.

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      • Box-Office
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        #23
        Originally posted by HughJass
        Everyone talking about how Amir has matured.....His only ever problem was he liked to have a tear-up.
        He also didn't pick his punches well and a sloppy defense, still not great, but decent.

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        • HughJass
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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Khan was perceived as very good under Roach, beating an old and shot MAB, Salita, Malignaggi, Kotelnyk, all light punchers and finally a puncher in Maidana, who Roach threatened to throw the towel against.

          Then there is also the fact that Khan never in his career rematched the fighters that beat him.

          Molina can't punch, Diaz is a decent puncher and he hurt and almost beat Khan, Alexander can't punch at 147. Basically it's matchmaking. There's nothing wrong with Roach, nothing wrong with Hunter, it's just Khan's punch resistance is **** and his best trainer is a good matchmaker. If he gets a good matchmaker, he can make him his trainer too, cause that's all he needs. Khan has the skills, speed, stamina to train himself, he's a Silver medalist. The matchmakers have to look out for him, there's nothing Roach, Hunter, Nacho, R. Garcia, or any trainer from the past 100 years could do to stop Khan from getting KD'ed from any decent puncher.
          Seriously Kev,Amir was gonna rematch that cheating sob Peterson,until they tested his ass and found him doped up to the fu.cking eyeballs.

          Matchmaking ain't the problem at all,if it was then why would Amir's team put him in against Maidana at the time when Maidana was the most feared puncher in the division when Amir had his clock cleaned by Prescott?

          Don't you think they would of kept Khan well clear if they knew his chin was sh.it?

          Amir can take a good punch,it's just his willingness to throw back when really he should look to be safe.That's what's Hunter has done to Khan,telling him why play devils advocate when Khan has all the skills in the world to beat these guys.

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #25
            Originally posted by Box-Office
            I most definitely agree.

            He sc****d by Diaz, but that was only his 2nd fight with Hunter, so benefit of the doubt.

            Now it's time for Khan to take his newly acquired/improved arsenal against a hard/decent punching Orthodox fighter. I think his name is Brook, that's definitely it. I'm not gonna complain if he gets Mayweather, but that'd be a mega event, a belt, heavy pay day and say he beats him that's great prep because he is right handed, very accurate and can punch harder than Mayweather at this point.
            We'll see, ideally I'd like a Danny Garcia rematch more than anything. If Khan can change his speed, keep composure and keep his combinations to a minimum against Garcia, I'm curious to know how well he does. Garcia however, already had Khan's timing down as early as the second round.

            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Khan was perceived as very good under Roach, beating an old and shot MAB, Salita, Malignaggi, Kotelnyk, all light punchers and finally a puncher in Maidana, who Roach threatened to throw the towel against.

            Then there is also the fact that Khan never in his career rematched the fighters that beat him.

            Molina can't punch, Diaz is a decent puncher and he hurt and almost beat Khan, Alexander can't punch at 147. Basically it's matchmaking. There's nothing wrong with Roach, nothing wrong with Hunter, it's just Khan's punch resistance is **** and his best trainer is a good matchmaker. If he gets a good matchmaker, he can make him his trainer too, cause that's all he needs. Khan has the skills, speed, stamina to train himself, he's a Silver medalist. The matchmakers have to look out for him, there's nothing Roach, Hunter, Nacho, R. Garcia, or any trainer from the past 100 years could do to stop Khan from getting KD'ed from any decent puncher.
            That's the most bothersome part about his career. I want to see if these improvements can translate well against someone like Porter, Maidana II, Garcia II, Thurman or Brook, that will answer the TS' question.

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            • Box-Office
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              #26
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              We'll see, ideally I'd like a Danny Garcia rematch more than anything. If Khan can change his speed, keep composure and keep his combinations to a minimum against Garcia, I'm curious to know how well he does. Garcia however, already had Khan's timing down as early as the second round.
              That's a great fight, but Garcia would be new to the weight, so it's a step back from Brook who is an established WW with a title. Everything just seems perfect with that bout.

              Forgot to add in my previous post that instead of aggressive, fighters like D.Gar who can counter are worse for Khan. If Khan could handle Maidana/Peterson aggressive he can sure handle Guerrero/Porter too. "Timing beats speed" phrase has never been truer than in Khan's case.

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              • Uklad
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                #27
                Originally posted by HughJass
                Seriously Kev,Amir was gonna rematch that cheating sob Peterson,until they tested his ass and found him doped up to the fu.cking eyeballs.

                Matchmaking ain't the problem at all,if it was then why would Amir's team put him in against Maidana at the time when Maidana was the most feared puncher in the division when Amir had his clock cleaned by Prescott?

                Don't you think they would of kept Khan well clear if they knew his chin was sh.it?

                Amir can take a good punch,it's just his willingness to throw back when really he should look to be safe.That's what's Hunter has done to Khan,telling him why play devils advocate when Khan has all the skills in the world to beat these guys.










                good post..

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                • Hitman Hodgson
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                  #28
                  He's improved in some areas; he's altered his approach more than his technique. He throw less punches now, and clinches a lot more. It's not quite as exciting but it means he's able to stay effective for more rounds instead of slowing down considerably in the 2nd half of fights. I've also noticed he rarely goes to the body these days which is disappointing because he's an excellent body puncher.
                  There're some other changes too that I've noticed. He now disguises his jab more and seems to be developing a nice lead left hook which he was able to throw over Alexander's jab because of his height and speed.

                  He did lunge in a few times against Alexander though and almost got caught. Against a light puncher like Alexander it didn't cost him, but against a fully-fledged WW whom can **** he could be in real trouble if he doesn't make some adjustments, and don't care how good his trainer is old habits die hard.
                  Last edited by Hitman Hodgson; 12-15-2014, 09:26 AM.

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                  • Basco
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                    #29
                    Kahn has looked good lately but I think he is the same fighter. Even vs Alexander he admitted he lost his composure and wanted to trade. The minute he does that with a heavy hitter, he will be doing that "funky chicken" step of his!

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                    • jas
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                      #30
                      yea for sure, has his legs under him

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