How can PAC be "desperate" for the fight and "banned" at the same time?

[Left Hook Tua]

If he loses he still has all you guys to buy his ppvs...lol no more streaming, you have to support the cause But on a serious note we all know that he's already losing interest from the casual...his ppv numbers reflect that,and it will get worse if floyd beats him and humiliates him....so yeah it would be disastrous!! but hey he will still have you guys!!

lol he can get all the sweet stuff, but if hes selling 200k per ppv how is that not a disastrous drop from 2009-2012?

if he is selling 200k now wtf does it matter losing to floyd? comprende?

so how does it become worst?

trust me arum made money on algieri even at 300k.

arum is not ******. that's why he spent lil on us promotion. few ads only 1 episode 24/7 i think.

he knew it was gonna be low. he wanted the macau money/investment.

[Showtime..]

Anyone with an objective point of view would say that Manny taking 40% is fair.

And remember, Manny said that it wasn't about the money. If it wasn't about the money, take the biggest purse of your life with the 40% of PPV revenues. Remember, the fight would AT LEAST make $150 million and at the most $250-$300 million, maybe even more.

Manny isn't the one arguing the $$. He lets Arum deal with that, and Arum doesn't want to get the short end of the stick. He knows what the fight is worth, he wouldn't want a disparity of 100M(random #) between what he & Manny make vs what Floyd makes.

[meme_man]

Anyone with an objective point of view would say that Manny taking 40% is fair.

And remember, Manny said that it wasn't about the money. If it wasn't about the money, take the biggest purse of your life with the 40% of PPV revenues. Remember, the fight would AT LEAST make $150 million and at the most $250-$300 million, maybe even more.

40 million plus 40% of ppv good deal

[Left Hook Tua]

60/40 is actually a good deal for Manny. Purse + 40% is really, really fair.

it's not purse + 40%.

guarantee is minimum.

say they say $40m guarantee, 40%.

it's 40%.

if the 40% is 45 mil. he gets 45 mil.

if 45% is less than 40 mil he still get 40 because that was his guaranteed minimum.

a purse is their earnings period. whether a flat rate or a pct with a guaranteed minimum.

[Cinci Champ]

It's funny how quickly the flômos flooded this site as soon as Floyd "called out" PAC on SHO, regurgitating the same dumb@ss talking points like an illiterate politician. He's still hiding behind the SAME roadblocks while barking like a chihuahua. Did you guys not even realize how the idiot contradicted himself yet again?

Floyd says: "His PPV's are very low, so he's desperate"
Then he goes on to claim "Manny Pacquiao and Bob Arum are ducking"

Which is it Floyd? How can Manny be desperate for the fight and ducking you at the same time? In what world does that make sense?

You guys who are calling PAC the coward need to ask yourselves: WHO is the one making all the demands, and WHO is the one agreeing to them, making compromises and willing to meet in the middle?

mods, please merge to appropriate thread if needed

thats cause its been all arum bs and u guys buy it hook line and sinker why wouldnt we flood it floyd finally stood up for himself and let his ego go and said something. when are u guys going to realize your boy arum has been holding up the fight everyone been saying from day one arum wont let manny fight until his ppv numbers start to drop at end his career and it just so happens all sudden they are being serious? give me a break guys

[Left Hook Tua]

40 million plus 40% of ppv good deal

i don't think it's PLUS 40%.

that doesn't make sense.

say the fighter payout is 200 mil for both fighters.

40% of 200m is 80 mil. PLUS 40 mil? 120?

he'll make more than floyd.

he probably meant 40 mil guarantee.

[LouIE G]

if he is selling 200k now wtf does it matter losing to floyd? comprende?

so how does it become worst?

trust me arum made money on algieri even at 300k.

arum is not ******. that's why he spent lil on us promotion. few ads only 1 episode 24/7 i think.

he knew it was gonna be low. he wanted the macau money/investment.

Losing to his ATG rival(jmm is his rival, but he has been linked to floyd for 5 years,and remain the 2 best fighter in their respective weight class) by humiliations would be VERY bad for pacquiao. he would be limited to only fighting in china against low level opposition that way he could make more money, but who the *** are going to buy the ppv's?

He beats floyd he gets to call the shots in the rematch, = higher ppv numbers in the future regardless of who he fights, because everyone will care about him again, and would want to see him fight... tyson vs mcneely did 1.5 mill ppvs...who the *** was mcneely, you know what im saying???ppv economics have changed since then but pac will still maintain his drawing power if he were to beat floyd, compared to if he lost to floyd..

[CLUE]

I dont even get my hopes up for all this crap anymore.

[meme_man]

i don't think it's PLUS 40%.

that doesn't make sense.

say the fighter payout is 200 mil for both fighters.

40% of 200m is 80 mil. PLUS 40 mil? 120?

he'll make more than floyd.

he probably meant 40 mil guarantee.

I think manny should take home 80 and floyd 100 after everything is said and done...

[Left Hook Tua]

Losing to his ATG rival(jmm is his rival, but he has been linked to floyd for 5 years,and remain the 2 best fighter in their respective weight class) by humiliations would be VERY bad for pacquiao. he would be limited to only fighting in china against low level opposition that way he could make more money, but who the *** are going to buy the ppv's?

He beats floyd he gets to call the shots in the rematch, = higher ppv numbers in the future regardless of who he fights, because everyone will care about him again, and would want to see him fight... tyson vs mcneely did 1.5 mill ppvs...who the *** was mcneely, you know what im saying???ppv economics have changed since then but pac will still maintain his drawing power if he were to beat floyd, compared to if he lost to floyd..

no. that's dumb talk. will pac make less? sure.

pac not making any money. no.

how's cotto's wallet since losing to marg, to pac, to floyd?

how about if floyd lose to pac? floyd would be fine too.