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  • mrpizza-nd_beer
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    #111
    Originally posted by Beercules
    Meanwhile Floyd is about to lose his May date to Cotto Canelo.


    If Floyd doesn't fight Manny in May, who's he going to fight that will do bigger numbers than Cotto and Canelo?

    Amir Khan? Thurman who hasn't beaten anyone? Who?


    Then Floyd drops his little "he has Marquez and Bradley problems" but did Maidana have Khan or Alexander problems? Nope!
    I have a feeling Floyd's non-committal call out was just a tactic to get Canelo to move the May date. I'd like Arum to call the bluff. Leave Floyd with no way to escape. Cut off the ring, Arum!

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    • torosboxing75
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      #112
      You know if Floyd says so....

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        #113
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        We also know that they haven't been able to finalize that funding. Just like they always. So please spare me. What "you people" comment are you referencing? Quote me please.
        If we only spoke about what had been finalised about this fight then we'd be pretty much mute. The issue still persists regarding what an athlete deems themselves to be worth once an entity has gone public with that kind of offer.

        It's likely to be used around the negotiating table even if it isn't airtight.

        And the issue is still there that Floyd has said he'll fight Pacquiao, but he's attaching an unreasonable stipulation to the purse if we go on the numbers that are being bandied around. If you don't agree that those numbers a doable for a fight of this size, what fighters purse do you see as possible?

        'You guys' as I said in the preceding post. Apologies for forcing you to be pedantic.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #114
          Originally posted by - Ram Raid -
          If we only spoke about what had been finalised about this fight then we'd be pretty much mute. The issue still persists regarding what an athlete deems themselves to be worth once an entity has gone public with that kind of offer.

          It's likely to be used around the negotiating table even if it isn't airtight.

          And the issue is still there that Floyd has said he'll fight Pacquiao, but he's attaching an unreasonable stipulation to the purse if we go on the numbers that are being bandied around. If you don't agree that those numbers a doable for a fight of this size, what fighters purse do you see as possible?

          'You guys' as I said in the preceding post. Apologies for forcing you to be pedantic.
          There is no way outside investors are taking over this fight. Showtime won't allow it, and neither will the promoters. They aren't even needed. Let's talk about reality. Let's look at their recent earnings and fiscal outlook. Period.

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          • johnnyrambo
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            #115
            No wonder you can't read! Ducking? ?? ..., C'mon Man!

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              #116
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              There is no way outside investors are taking over this fight. Showtime won't allow it, and neither will the promoters. They aren't even needed. Let's talk about reality. Let's look at their recent earnings and fiscal outlook. Period.
              Ok. Assuming that Floyd isn't planning on coming out tomorrow to claim that he never said this and the media are putting words in his mouth, let's start there.

              What kind of fighters purse do you see this fight realistically having?

              I'll assume that you don't wish to answer on the 'you guys' remark and move on.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #117
                I have 2 problems with what Floyd said....Why cant the fight be on HBO and Showtime.....and Trying to give Manny side pennies when this fight will generate up to 200mill......I understand Manny ppv numbers are horrible right now but people are buying this fight to see MANNY VS FLOYD..

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                • kej718
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Dabuu
                  I have 2 problems with what Floyd said....Why cant the fight be on HBO and Showtime.....and Trying to give Manny side pennies when this fight will generate up to 200mill......I understand Manny ppv numbers are horrible right now but people are buying this fight to see MANNY VS FLOYD..
                  If it is on just 1 network there will be more money for the fighters, and Floyd has a contract with Showtime, but I don't think Manny is signed to HBO.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by - Ram Raid -
                    Ok. Assuming that Floyd isn't planning on coming out tomorrow to claim that he never said this and the media are putting words in his mouth, let's start there.

                    What kind of fighters purse do you see this fight realistically having?

                    I'll assume that you don't wish to answer on the 'you guys' remark and move on.
                    The you guys is in reference to those who bought that Akbar Muhammed crap. But now that we've moved in, I think the #'s should dictate what they make.

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                    • - Ram Raid -
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Dabuu
                      I have 2 problems with what Floyd said....Why cant the fight be on HBO and Showtime.....and Trying to give Manny side pennies when this fight will generate up to 200mill......I understand Manny ppv numbers are horrible right now but people are buying this fight to see MANNY VS FLOYD..
                      The only logical assumptions are that he doesn't want the fight to happen or in the unlikely event that he does then he wants to belittle his opponent at the negotiation table.

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