Chris Algieri beats Maidana

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I done heard it all...

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Again with the "hero" crap.

This is the problem with you trolls. A discussion can't be had. Anyone saying anything not sucking off Pacquiao, or Pacquiao opponents and it's "your hero" Floyd.

Yet you can't go back in this thread and find ONE post suggesting that. Go do it, Nancy. I'll wait here.

I said, in this thread, I don't think Floyd wants to fight him. But you idiots can't digest the fact that someone can think Floyd doesn't want to fight him, without having to discredit his entire career. It's like a foreign concept or something.

You are all over the place man. It was a simple point that you are having a very tough time grasping.

Which version of Maidana are you talking about? The one Floyd fought with those disadvantages or not?

We really don't know if Maidana can knock anyone out with those gloves. Remember what Floyd said? "No wonder Maidana was knocking out everyone".

Algieri handled himself well in a ~17' ring against Ruslan, imagine fighting in a 26' ring with a decent jab and lots of movement from Algieri? If Maidana doesn't get to Algieri after 5 or so rounds it would get tough for Maidana who gasses as the fight goes on. Algieri though would need to hold more like Devon did (too much for my liking) and it would be a long night for Maidana.

I'm not even saying the above happens but its another scenario that can take place. Unless they fight, we can't know but we have seen Maidana struggle with boxers. So it's not out of the question.

Personally, I don't know if Algieri can do it as we haven't seen enough of him to gauge one way or the other. He beat fighters like Ruslan and Taylor that gave others (Bradley, Alvarado, Broner) a tough fight.

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I didn't say Alexander is some devastating puncher. I said that he hits harder than Algieri, and he does.

And I don't know where in the hell this "Algieri is slick" crap is coming from. He's most known for getting knocked down a lot of times, lol. Sure, he edged out Provodnikov. I believe Maidana is better than Provo. The guy can move, sure, but slick? Come on, man.

Relatively speaking, Algieri is more slick than anybody that Maidana's beaten. You're also discrediting him (chris) completely because he doesn't have punching power. It doesn't take punching power to win a fight, It's just a complement.


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You are all over the place man. It was a simple point that you are having a very tough time grasping.

Which version of Maidana are you talking about? The one Floyd fought with those disadvantages or not?

We really don't know if Maidana can knock anyone out with those gloves. Remember what Floyd said? "No wonder Maidana was knocking out everyone".

Algieri handled himself well in a ~17' ring against Ruslan, imagine fighting in a 26' ring with a decent jab and lots of movement from Algieri? If Maidana doesn't get to Algieri after 5 or so rounds it would get tough for Maidana who gasses as the fight goes on. Algieri though would need to hold more like Devon did (too much for my liking) and it would be a long night for Maidana.

I'm not even saying the above happens but its another scenario that can take place. Unless they fight, we can't know but we have seen Maidana struggle with boxers. So it's not out of the question.

Personally, I don't know if Algieri can do it as we haven't seen enough of him to gauge one way or the other. He beat fighters like Ruslan and Taylor that gave others (Bradley, Alvarado, Broner) a tough fight.

I'm all over the place? I was talking about Algieri/Maidana in an Algieri/Maidana thread, and you guys derailed it with Mayweather.

Where'd all this talk of a 26' ring come from?

Where'd I say Maidana would knock him out?

I think you need to double check which one of us is all over the place. I mean sure, if we're stacking the deck against Maidana then Algieri has a shot. But if it were Maidana that night and not Provodnikov, I don't think Algieri would have won. I simply don't think he's that good.

Maidana has come a long way since the Alexander fight. And in my opinion, even today's Alexander is a bit better than Algieri.

Apparently his ability to sc**** by Ruslan, and get completely embarrassed by Pacquiao showed some of you something that I just don't see. So be it.

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Relatively speaking, Algieri is more slick than anybody that Maidana's beaten. You're also discrediting him (chris) completely because he doesn't have punching power. It doesn't take punching power to win a fight, It's just a complement.


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It's not just punching power. I don't believe he does anything that well. He has a decent jab, he moves pretty good, but with no real intent behind it. It's not like he's lightening fast. He definitely doesn't have the kind of pop that can keep Maidana honest.

What's he gonna do? Run around the ring and jab him to death?

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I'm all over the place? I was talking about Algieri/Maidana in an Algieri/Maidana thread, and you guys derailed it with Mayweather.

Where'd all this talk of a 26' ring come from?

Where'd I say Maidana would knock him out?

I think you need to double check which one of us is all over the place. I mean sure, if we're stacking the deck against Maidana then Algieri has a shot. But if it were Maidana that night and not Provodnikov, I don't think Algieri would have won. I simply don't think he's that good.

Maidana has come a long way since the Alexander fight. And in my opinion, even today's Alexander is a bit better than Algieri.

Apparently his ability to sc**** by Ruslan, and get completely embarrassed by Pacquiao showed some of you something that I just don't see. So be it.

I'm just being real. You just avoiding ......

I didn't think Manny should have fought Algieri. It happened and Manny did what he had to do. So it's not like I ever boasted about Algieri to be something he is not. I even said it in the previous posts. We don't have enough information on him to know one way or another.

Against Ruslan, he did it in a ~17' ring. You take away that first round, he did well.

Maidana still gasses out today. Same fighter. You need to see how he does against a boxer who can frustrate him. Devon got Maidana out of his game. If you see Maidana's recent fight, he struggled even after Devon's fight. He had the punch to change it around and did in some of those fights.

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I'm just being real. You just avoiding ......

I didn't think Manny should have fought Algieri. It happened and Manny did what he had to do. So it's not like I ever boasted about Algieri to be something he is not. I even said it in the previous posts. We don't have enough information on him to know one way or another.

Against Ruslan, he did it in a ~17' ring. You take away that first round, he did well.

Maidana still gasses out today. Same fighter. You need to see how he does against a boxer who can frustrate him. Devon got Maidana out of his game. If you see Maidana's recent fight, he struggled even after Devon's fight. He had the punch to change it around and did in some of those fights.

What do you mean "being real"? What am I avoiding? I'm telling you what I think. I have no idea wtf you're even talking about.

This is the first time in my life I've heard of someone avoiding something on the god damn internet.

I swear, it's impossible to talk to some of you.

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If you take away Maidanas power and use a 26ft ring like Floyd did.
Algieris legs are just better then Floyds at this stage of their careers.

Trolling at your best toro, Algieri is a tomato can and every true boxing fan knows this. The efforts of Pac fans trying to justify that cherry pick of a fight is pathetic.

Maidana bodies Algieri in any size ring with any size gloves, the skill level gap is apparent to even Ray Charles. Maidana can actually box, and he has good defense, have you ever seen Maidana marked up? I can't think of one elite fighter in his weight class range that Algieri can give a run for their money. Maidana would probably stop Algieri early, if Manny's predicable straights landed on Algieri all night, how would he ever stop a more elusive, stronger, more violeny puncher in Maidana who lands from unorthodox angles and throws every punch with ill intentions? Another key difference is that this version of Pac can't pull the trigger, Maidana smells blood and ends fights.

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It's not just punching power. I don't believe he does anything that well. He has a decent jab, he moves pretty good, but with no real intent behind it. It's not like he's lightening fast. He definitely doesn't have the kind of pop that can keep Maidana honest.

What's he gonna do? Run around the ring and jab him to death?

I don't expect Algieri to do what Alexander did, but something more similar to what Floyd did. He'd take advantage of Maidana after he gasses.

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Trolling at your best toro, Algieri is a tomato can and every true boxing fan knows this. The efforts of Pac fans trying to justify that cherry pick of a fight is pathetic.

Maidana bodies Algieri in any size ring with any size gloves, the skill level gap is apparent to even Ray Charles. Maidana can actually box, and he has good defense, have you ever seen Maidana marked up? I can't think of one elite fighter in his weight class range that Algieri can give a run for their money. Maidana would probably stop Algieri early, if Manny's predicable straights landed on Algieri all night, how would he ever stop a more elusive, stronger, more violeny puncher in Maidana who lands from unorthodox angles and throws every punch with ill intentions? Another key difference is that this version of Pac can't pull the trigger, Maidana smells blood and ends fights.

Your comment sounds more like a PAC-bash than it does reason for Maidana over Algieri..