Pernell Whitakker had far better footwork than any version of Floyd Mayweather.

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  • StefanTosic
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    #41
    Originally posted by StillHereBro
    You're neglecting Floyd's use of Lateral movement to set up offence ie his leaping left hooks like the ones that put Corrales down multiple times.
    You may be right, my bad, thank you. By the way speaking about it he used it more often earlier than he has done these last few years. I remember he surprised me with his left hook against Cotto but beside that fight I can't recall him using it often these last few years if I'm not wrong.

    EDIT: But I still don't think he did it that often even when he was younger, lol
    Last edited by StefanTosic; 12-10-2014, 06:32 PM.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #42
      Why are 90 percent of the threads on here about Floyd?

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      • LouIE G
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        #43
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        Why are 90 percent of the threads on here about Floyd?
        Its always about floyd larry, he is even being labeled as a murderer now!? theres sum dumb people on this site...

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        • Larry the boss
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          #44
          Originally posted by jai mari078
          Pernell had better fottwork, was betteer defensively, and had power that Floyd has never had.
          Power??? he had 17 ko's out of 40 wins man

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          • big_james10
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            #45
            Originally posted by JasonBoxing
            Recently watched some Pernell fights and I came to realize that his footwork was arguably at GOAT level. Literally tiers above the likes of Floyd's, Hopkins or Ward's.


            Hopkins(Prime version)/Ward/Floyd often makes their opponents miss by miles by keeping miles between them, or smothering them entirely.

            Whitaker, however, was at his creative best staying just in and out of range, reading an opponents body language, setting his traps, and creating the art upon the canvas that was the ring. Whitaker more often played a game of inches, and played it well.


            Just look at the opening performance against Roger Mayweather. Although Whitaker is praised so highly for his upper body movement, it was his subtle footwork that facilitated his upper body to move with such precision. Sliding backwards while pulling his head slightly, ducking out at a side-angle with a full pivot, and even effortlessly intimidating a stalking opponent into backing up momentarily to maintain control of the center (such as against Roger Mayweather, a well-rounded boxer-puncher) by stepping forward-these are all subtle tricks that allowed Whitaker to maintain complete offensive and defensive control of an opponent in a way that guys like Hopkins and Floyd rarely demonstrated.


            This brings us to our next elements: Lateral Movement and Stepping With/Into Punches.


            Prime Floyd has superb lateral movement.But Whitakers was superior.Floyd's lateral movement was to take away a punching angle and set up an ambush, but Whitaker's lateral movement was fixed into his offense. It is difficult for a southpaw to consistently land a jab without turning into it, and none has ever done it better than Whitaker. Whitaker's default was to circle while jabbing, constantly circling his opponent and inviting his offense while scoring with his own, elegantly dancing around his opponent without wastefully or skittishly running from him (most of the time, anyway).


            And while Floyd is a master of befuddling an opponent when cornered and escaping the ropes, Whitaker is not one who was rushed there quite as often. No other fighter since 1965 has been able to circle an opponent so completely while still maintaining their offense. While Whitaker is almost or just as capable of disengaging and ambushing an opponent as Floyd is, he unquestionably trumps Floyd's ability to maintain control in range while side-stepping and pivoting into his punches and recovering position after throwing without ever leaving the center of the ring.


            I never seen footwork like Pernell's and just felt like posting my opinions. I'm not saying Pernell will beat Floyd H2H, in terms of overall skills they are in the same tier. But in terms of footwork and movement? Floyd falls far short of Sweet Pea.
            You wrote 400 words to tell us something that no one cares about. As far as I am concerned, the biggest difference between Floyd Mayweather and Pernell Whitaker is that Mayweather wasn't robbed by Oscar De La Hoya.

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            • big_james10
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              #46
              Originally posted by drenlou
              Its always about floyd larry, he is even being labeled as a murderer now!? theres sum dumb people on this site...
              It is an insult to dumb people to equate them with the people on this site who post these daily hate threads about Floyd Mayweather.

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              • LouIE G
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                #47
                Originally posted by big_james10
                It is an insult to dumb people to equate them with the people on this site who post these daily hate threads about Floyd Mayweather.
                Yeah i should rephrase that, theres some sick sadistic mutha***as on here... dumb people dont post shiat like that, sick mutha***as do.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  Why are 90 percent of the threads on here about Floyd?
                  "All roads lead to Floyd Mayweather."






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                  • Ham Porter
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by big_james10
                    You wrote 400 words to tell us something that no one cares about. As far as I am concerned, the biggest difference between Floyd Mayweather and Pernell Whitaker is that Mayweather wasn't robbed by Oscar De La Hoya.

                    If you genuinely think Whitaker was robbed against De La Hoya, isn't it very telling that a prime Mayweather could only just about equal his performance against a substantially older, more diminished fighter?

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Norm Peterson
                      If you genuinely think Whitaker was robbed against De La Hoya, isn't it very telling that a prime Mayweather could only just about equal his performance against a substantially older, more diminished fighter?
                      Whitaker was robbed and they tried to rob Floyd...only thing telling here is they tried to rob 2 fighters who clearly beat Oscar

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