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    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - In hindsight, I suppose I shouldn’t blame Victor Ortiz.

    I was happy to get an interview last week because I genuinely like him, I think he’s a pretty good fighter and I also think – to a large extent – that he’s been unfairly hammered by an overfed media only too happy to pile on when a guy falls short of their arbitrary standards for machismo.

    But then, when I got him on the phone and he was kind of, well… a jerk, I was angry.

    It annoyed me because I wasn’t going to bombard him with the same questions about the Maidana fight and the Mayweather fight and the Lopez fight. Instead, I was genuinely interested in simply finding out where his head was at these days, and what he’s hoping to get out of his latest return.

    In case you hadn’t heard, he’s fighting Manuel Perez on Saturday in Las Vegas, on the undercard of a show that’ll feature Amir Khan and Devon Alexander in the Showtime main event.

    His fight with Perez was initially not planned for television, but subsequent updates from the network’s people tell me that the match will be indeed taped and, if time allows, shown in its entirety during the early evening broadcast carried by Showtime’s Extreme channel beginning at 7 p.m.

    Anyway, instead of engaging in the thoughtful conversation I’d hoped to prompt, Ortiz’s answer to my initial “how are you feeling heading into this one” query pretty much bordered on the ludicrous.

    “I’m gonna be one of the best of all time, just like Muhammad Ali was, just like (Julio Cesar) Chavez was,” he said. “I’ll be in the history books, for sure. Not that I’m not already, but I know what it takes to get there, I know I’ve done it before and I’ll do it again.”

    Ummmm, yeah.

    Though I’ll concede to not knowing quite how he’d be able to top such a claim for the rest of our chat, it turned out I needn’t have worried. Rather than subsequently articulating his confidence in a manner other than over-the-top historical hyperbole, he decided to hunker down into full-on “the whole world’s against me, so I don’t care what anyone thinks” mode. [Click Here To Read More]

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      Fans can say all the they want... and they have and they will... but at the end of the day the guy in the ring is almost always the guy with the set of stones. Ortiz has had his reasons for falling short, and there's been plenty of blabbering about that, reasons real, fan's analogies real or pure b.s., whatever. I've even read 'fans' saying he quit vs Lopez... as if that isn't the biggest line of b.s. ever. Hey, yeah he should've kept going. Never mind the doctors said he would've bled out and died if he hadn't gotten to the hospital when he did.

      So IOW, I'm kinda like Victor... I have become uninterested in all the shiii slung his way. He's making a comeback because he wants to. So I say give him a clean slate to start off with and we'll see what happens. If he flat out sux this time around, then yeah, he was just a flash in the pan. I'd imagine what will probably happen though, he'll have a decent few fights, maybe even win a minor belt, then retire to full time actor. So then, as a whole, not such a bad career. Not the greatest as he claims, but still decent.

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      • #4
        The expendables paycheck must have ran out

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        • #5
          Lyle Fitzsimmons makes me puke, super know it all and a try hard for sure.
          For a guy that doesn't like to see a Rios vs Alvarado fight, and says that is not boxing fan friendly, makes me wonder why be in this sport if all you do is bash it?

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          • #6
            Vic as in QUIT Ortiz

            Vic is about finished in boxing. When a kid quits repeatedly and gives up it's over. Doubt has set in and Vic is thinking survival not winning now. Too many smiles and not enough heart for Vic Quit Ortiz. It's over hear the fat lady singing?

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            • #7
              Victor might be going for the '****** pays' routine.
              It's worked for Floyd and almost worked for Broner.
              He's either genuinely afflicted with a mental illness or he just went WWE on us.

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              • #8
                War F.ucking Tiz...
                Last edited by Infamous; 12-09-2014, 01:49 PM.

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                • #9
                  I don't exactly see what made him sound like a jerk but I'm still rooting for him. I doubt he gets back on top but he has what's left of my support

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                  • #10
                    This dude got wobbled by the first hard shot he took against Luis freaking Collazo and quit. Why do people still care so much? Nothing against Ortiz, but boxing clearly isn't for him and I don't see why people continue to talk like he matters.

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