Are Al Haymon advised fighters......

[Rostov Papa]

Two losses back to back does not seem like doing well to me

But he did make more money in those two fights than he likely did in his entire career, and likely will make again.

So he definitely got Maidana set up with a sweet little nest egg.

But for BOXING FANS? He's terrible and needs to go away.

[bigjavi973]

Not according to the following via Dan Rafael

ok but you did not disprove anything deevel stated. Try again.

[El_Feroz82]

If you heard the interview, you'd hear Kenny Porter explaining CLEARLY that they did NOT want Thurman. Never mentioned Haymon once. Kenny Porter was very clear about it.

Guerrero turned down Thurman already, so Soto-Karass ended up fighting Thurman. And after fighting Floyd, Guerrero had been inactive for over a year, by his OWN doing. At one point, Guerrero even tried breaking out of his contract with Golden Boy because Top Rank whispered Pacquaio into his ear.

http://www.boxingscene.com/schaefer-...thurman--68969

You don't seem to get it, If Haymon wanted the fight there would be a fight, Porter or his father have no control....not dis*****g the interview, just pointing out that it doesn't matter. JEEZ

[SplitSecond]

Look at Paulie Malignaggi going off on Thurman and telling him to his face that he's not interested! And this is Paulie saying this! What do you think other guys think when Paulie is saying this?! Haha.

paulie wasn't with haymon at this point, i dont think porter is with haymon also

[radioraheem]

ok but you did not disprove anything deevel stated. Try again.

It's been disproved a long time ago. The information he brought up, from FightHype, is based on things from 2010. But the information via Dan Rafael is based on things from 2012. And he clearly states that Pacquaio received $6 million for a fact, with a potential of more money based upon PPV revenue. If you don't like that fact, go complain to Top Rank and Bob Arum.

How about you try that?

[bigjavi973]

That happened because Mayweather Promotions was not a licensed promoter in Nevada at that time. Golden Boy does not put up the cash.

So you are agreeing with deevel. Good to see that.

[radioraheem]

paulie wasn't with haymon at this point, i dont think porter is with haymon also

Exactly. It just goes to show that it's the FIGHTERS themselves that are UNINTERESTED in fighting Thurman. If Paulie did this while being with Haymon, some of you conspiracy theorists, would try and say that Haymon made him turn Thurman down.

Porter is with Haymon and has been with Haymon for some time now. That's a fact.

[El_Feroz82]

Look at Paulie Malignaggi going off on Thurman and telling him to his face that he's not interested! And this is Paulie saying this! What do you think other guys think when Paulie is saying this?! Haha.

Seriously, you may be delayed in some way.......I've seen all of these vids, but these guys are now signed with Al and they can't pick opponents anymore. They can't say no

[Deevel916]

It's been disproved a long time ago. The information he brought up, from FightHype, is based on things from 2010. But the information via Dan Rafael is based on things from 2012. And he clearly states that Pacquaio received $6 million for a fact, with a potential of more money based upon PPV revenue. If you don't like that fact, go complain to Top Rank and Bob Arum.

How about you try that?

Its the same business structure.

Here I'll post it again so that maybe this time you can understand.



For those that are wondering about the difference in numbers reported to the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), a large reason is due to the division of the $22 million guarantee between Pacquiao and his promotional company, therefore the bout agreement that's submitted to NSAC would likely only show the $13.5 million that's set aside as Pacquiao's actual purse. Furthermore, as promoter Bob Arum pointed out, under the rules of NSAC, he's only required to provide the commission the amount he's actually paying Pacquiao on the night of the fight, which amounts to the $6 million that NSAC reported. The remainder of the $13.5 million purse ($7.5 million) is paid over a timeframe usually within 30-60 days after the fight. The remaining guarantee to Pacquiao's promotional company ($8.5 million) is also likely paid out during that same 30-60 day timeframe.

So to summarize, on the night of the fight, Pacquiao gets cut a check for $6 million (minus expenses), and then he gets the remainder of his purse guarantee ($7.5 million) and his promotional guarantee ($8.5 million) spread out during a timeframe after the fight, thus totaling the $22 million guarantee ($6 million + $7.5 million + $8.5 million) that was promised to him. It should be noted that prior to Pacquiao, or any other fighter for that matter, receiving his check on the night of the fight, he is deducted a number of expenses, including manager/trainer fees, NSAC drug testing fees, advances, tickets purchased, and other incidentals. Furthermore, because he is a foreign fighter, roughly 30% ($1.8 million) is automatically set aside for the IRS, so that $6 million can quickly be cut in half.

[radioraheem]

You don't seem to get it, If Haymon wanted the fight there would be a fight, Porter or his father have no control....not dis*****g the interview, just pointing out that it doesn't matter. JEEZ

This is not true though. If Haymon wants it, but the fighters don't want it, the fight won't happen. Fighters have a lot more power than you think. They have to be cool with the situation as well.

Even in terms of Canelo, Schaefer and Oscar did NOT want him fighting Trout and Lara. But that happened because Canelo really wanted it. I also heard that Haymon didn't really want Broner vs. Maidana. But that Broner really insisted on it happening.