Are Al Haymon advised fighters......

[radioraheem]

1.5mil for the first fight and 3mil for the 2nd. He would have made much more fighting Pac. Bradley made more in 1 fight against Pac than Maidana made in 2 fights vs Floyd.

The point is that Maidana had a great year financially. And he would have NOT made that money fighting anyone else not named Floyd Mayweather. Ok, if he fought Pacquaio maybe he would have made more money.

But just keep in mind the following that happened with Pacquaio vs. Bradley...

Pacquiao was guaranteed $26 million by Top Rank promoter Bob Arum. His check on the night of the fight was for $6 million, and he received a portion of the pay-per-view buys.

[bojangles1987]

I don't get why his fighters are so okay with what he has them do. Quillin and Stevenson lost pretty much any respect or status they had going into the year, and neither says a bad word. In fact, they defend those decisions vehemently. Thurman voices his displeasure in public, but never at Haymon himself. He may simply be unaware of what's happening behind the scenes, though. Santa Cruz is becoming a joke, you never hear him complain. Danny Garcia is happy with it.

That's why it's so easy to believe these guys are okay with taking the easiest fights they can and never fighting anyone worth a damn. So few of them ever complain, and none of them say a bad word about the guy responsible.

[IMDAZED]

I don't get why his fighters are so okay with what he has them do. Quillin and Stevenson lost pretty much any respect or status they had going into the year, and neither says a bad word. In fact, they defend those decisions vehemently. Thurman voices his displeasure in public, but never at Haymon himself. He may simply be unaware of what's happening behind the scenes, though. Santa Cruz is becoming a joke, you never hear him complain. Danny Garcia is happy with it.

That's why it's so easy to believe these guys are okay with taking the easiest fights they can and never fighting anyone worth a damn. So few of them ever complain, and none of them say a bad word about the guy responsible.

I think they realize 2014 is a transition here. I doubt very much (with the exception of Stevenson, who has no options) that you something similar in 2015.

[radioraheem]

I don't get why his fighters are so okay with what he has them do. Quillin and Stevenson lost pretty much any respect or status they had going into the year, and neither says a bad word. In fact, they defend those decisions vehemently. Thurman voices his displeasure in public, but never at Haymon himself. He may simply be unaware of what's happening behind the scenes, though. Santa Cruz is becoming a joke, you never hear him complain. Danny Garcia is happy with it.

That's why it's so easy to believe these guys are okay with taking the easiest fights they can and never fighting anyone worth a damn. So few of them ever complain, and none of them say a bad word about the guy responsible.

Because these fighters made a lot of money with Haymon. Thurman can't voice his displeasure with Haymon especially because him not getting fights had nothing to do with Haymon usually. It was the fighters themselves turning Thurman down. Maidana turned Thurman down once upon a time. Guerrero turned Thurman down. Porter turned Thurman down as well. Malignaggi also turned Thurman down to his face at his own presser.

He's had some bad luck, but he'll get his break eventually. Santa Cruz and Garcia also made lots of money with Haymon. Cruz especially, he's been getting his highest paydays to date.

[Deevel916]

The point is that Maidana had a great year financially. And he would have NOT made that money fighting anyone else not named Floyd Mayweather. Ok, if he fought Pacquaio maybe he would have made more money.

But just keep in mind the following that happened with Pacquaio vs. Bradley...

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11641.html

So to summarize, on the night of the fight, Pacquiao gets cut a check for $6 million (minus expenses), and then he gets the remainder of his purse guarantee ($7.5 million) and his promotional guarantee ($8.5 million) spread out during a timeframe after the fight, thus totaling the $22 million guarantee ($6 million + $7.5 million + $8.5 million) that was promised to him. It should be noted that prior to Pacquiao, or any other fighter for that matter, receiving his check on the night of the fight, he is deducted a number of expenses, including manager/trainer fees, NSAC drug testing fees, advances, tickets purchased, and other incidentals. Furthermore, because he is a foreign fighter, roughly 30% ($1.8 million) is automatically set aside for the IRS, so that $6 million can quickly be cut in half.

Now that we have an understanding of how Pacquiao's guarantee works, the next step is to take a look at any additional revenue he's entitled to from the total net profits.

[radioraheem]

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11641.html

So to summarize, on the night of the fight, Pacquiao gets cut a check for $6 million (minus expenses), and then he gets the remainder of his purse guarantee ($7.5 million) and his promotional guarantee ($8.5 million) spread out during a timeframe after the fight, thus totaling the $22 million guarantee ($6 million + $7.5 million + $8.5 million) that was promised to him. It should be noted that prior to Pacquiao, or any other fighter for that matter, receiving his check on the night of the fight, he is deducted a number of expenses, including manager/trainer fees, NSAC drug testing fees, advances, tickets purchased, and other incidentals. Furthermore, because he is a foreign fighter, roughly 30% ($1.8 million) is automatically set aside for the IRS, so that $6 million can quickly be cut in half.

Now that we have an understanding of how Pacquiao's guarantee works, the next step is to take a look at any additional revenue he's entitled to from the total net profits.

Not according to the following via Dan Rafael

The reason for the disparity is because the $6 million will be available to Pacquiao immediately, while the remaining $20 million will be paid over an undisclosed number or days or weeks (that he and Arum agreed upon) as the revenue from the fight comes in.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't get why his fighters are so okay with what he has them do. Quillin and Stevenson lost pretty much any respect or status they had going into the year, and neither says a bad word. In fact, they defend those decisions vehemently. Thurman voices his displeasure in public, but never at Haymon himself. He may simply be unaware of what's happening behind the scenes, though. Santa Cruz is becoming a joke, you never hear him complain. Danny Garcia is happy with it.

That's why it's so easy to believe these guys are okay with taking the easiest fights they can and never fighting anyone worth a damn. So few of them ever complain, and none of them say a bad word about the guy responsible.

Maybe they are aware of what is going on and are ok with it. They had one bad year-is that really enough to make you as a fan turn on them? Lets say Al makes all the fights he should have in 2015-will that return these fighters to your good graces?

[Deevel916]

Not according to the following via Dan Rafael

By NSAC law, a percantage of the total purse has to be paid to the fighter (Pac) on fight night hence the $6mil with the balance paid out once all the revenue is recouped.

I don't get your point. Are you trying to imply that Pac was only paid a total of $6mil for the Bradley fight?

[IMDAZED]

By NSAC law, a percantage of the total purse has to be paid to the fighter (Pac) on fight night hence the $6mil with the balance paid out once all the revenue is recouped.

I don't get your point. Are you trying to imply that Pac was only paid a total of $6mil for the Bradley fight?

No, he's questioning the total amount based on deductions/expenses and revenue.

[Deevel916]

No, he's questioning the total amount based on deductions/expenses and revenue.

Well this goes for any fighter. What fighter doesn't have to come out of pocket for expenses, deductions, etc?...

Even Floyd the highest paid fighter has to pay these same expenses. Al Haymon takes his cut. GBP takes their promotional fee. Training expenses. And the biggest one of all.....Uncle Sam takes his 39.6%.

Some people actually believe that when its reported that Floyd makes $40mil that he actually keeps the entire $40mil. LOL. He'd be lucky to see $15mil of that 40 once all taxes and expenses are paid.