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New Ring P4P rankings: Wladimir Klitschko moved up to #2

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  • Originally posted by Run View Post
    As a criteria,

    Winning titles in MULTIPLE weight classes, while fighting undisputed or linear competitors who are the best in the given division should be the determining factor.

    Once again.

    Heavyweight is the echelon weight. It's considered by many to be nonsense rating one as a P4P contender
    why? p4p is about the theoretical assumption that a guy can, without weight being an issue, beat the majority of people on the planet. that is the very basic assumption being made and wlad, in terms of skills and power beats just about anybody.

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    • Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
      why? p4p is about the theoretical assumption that a guy can, without weight being an issue, beat the majority of people on the planet. that is the very basic assumption being made and wlad, in terms of skills and power beats just about anybody.
      That's the revisionist view. I stated earlier (and I'm not alone) the old school definition is as follows.

      Someone said.

      "Ray Robinson is so good....and he's cleaned everyone out moving up in weight. How well would he fare against a heavyweight?"

      Wlad is a heavyweight. There is no way to climb higher than the peak of a mountain....Figuratively.

      The system shouldn't apply to him



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      • Originally posted by Run View Post
        That's the revisionist view. I stated earlier (and I'm not alone) the old school definition is as follows.

        Someone said.

        "Ray Robinson is so good....and he's cleaned everyone out moving up in weight. How well would he fare against a heavyweight?"

        Wlad is a heavyweight. There is no way to climb higher than the peak of a mountain....Figuratively.

        The system shouldn't apply to him
        That's a myth. The phrase pound for pound predates Robinson.

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        • Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          Golovkin and GGG are the same guy. Get your sh%t together and maybe, just maybe you will convince somebody (definitely not me) that you're not a moron ****in wannabe.
          That was almost funny. Nothing in the sentence I wrote would indicate I didn't know that but nice effort. Happy trolling jackass.

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          • Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Golovkin and GGG are the same guy. Get your sh%t together and maybe, just maybe you will convince somebody (definitely not me) that you're not a moron ****in wannabe.
            You might want to read his post again along with the post he was responding to.

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            • Originally posted by crold1 View Post
              That was almost funny. Nothing in the sentence I wrote would indicate I didn't know that but nice effort. Happy trolling jackass.
              Happy TROLLING? Me?

              You're really one to talk you anti-Klitschko douche nozzle.

              You were here at attention the second somebody made mention of anything that remotely looked like a Klitschko praise.

              Why even start posting in this thread? You're not convincing anyone that you have any sense and that Klitschko has not earned his spot.

              He has certainly done more than Tyson had done in the 80's to deserve the #1 P4P spot he got. I wouldn't be suprised if you were on that panel.

              Try being objective like a real journalist you narrow minded twit.

              24-2 in HW title fights and counting. Know it. Accept it. Fall in love with it, because there's nothing you can do or say to stop it.

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              • One more time try to learn something........it's not about the weight!!!!!!

                Compare RIGO (the Best) to Wlad not at 122 or heavyweight it's about talent and skills!!!! I know its hard for most here to leave "size" out but p4p is as if "size" is equal!!!!


                so 1st bout Rigo vs Wlad at 122lbs
                second fight Wlad vs Rigo at heavyweight


                no weights, weight is immaterial its about skills!!!!!! duh!!!

                Ray

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                • Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                  Golovkin and GGG are the same guy. Get your sh%t together and maybe, just maybe you will convince somebody (definitely not me) that you're not a moron ****in wannabe.
                  Wow.

                  I love when people stand up on the soapbox only to fall over like a fat kid with one leg.

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                  • Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                    Wow.

                    I love when people stand up on the soapbox only to fall over like a fat kid with one leg.
                    All because I said that Vitali's claim to lineage after the Sanders win was not universal and that I don't recognize it. LOL I'm usually polite.

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                    • Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                      One more time try to learn something........it's not about the weight!!!!!!

                      Compare RIGO (the Best) to Wlad not at 122 or heavyweight it's about talent and skills!!!! I know its hard for most here to leave "size" out but p4p is as if "size" is equal!!!!


                      so 1st bout Rigo vs Wlad at 122lbs
                      second fight Wlad vs Rigo at heavyweight


                      no weights, weight is immaterial its about skills!!!!!! duh!!!

                      Ray
                      Do you think that Wlad, with his huge a55, would fight the exact same if he weighted 122 lbs?

                      Better yet, do you think Rigo, as good as we know he is, would fight that way if he was 250 lbs?

                      They wouldn't. You bring a moot point. Not much else.
                      Last edited by Boxing Goat; 11-26-2014, 02:29 PM.

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