Comments Thread For: Pacquiao on Mayweather: It Was Time To Say Something!

[arraamis]

Did Pacquiao just say "depends on my promoter" again?

And that is the "KEY" to everything Pac does .... It doesn't matter what Pac states, if Arum isn't on-board then its hot air.

[sosiqwitit]

just last week:

flomos: yeah pac can say whatever he wants, but it wont mean anything because after his fight he'll juist say talk to my promoter.

after the fight:

manny: yes i want floyd, thats the fight the fans want, they deserve it.

flomos: manny had his chance, he should have never turn down the $40mil offer from floyd. pac blew it so its his fault.

If we took both those numbers at face value, you do realize that you're actually hurting your argument. So Mayweather did comparable numbers to Pac in a 3 fight span after Mayweather was inactive for almost 2 years. That kind of looks better for Mayweather's argument does it not? The only way you can truly know who's the bigger draw is by comparing similar fights for ppv for Mayweather v Cotto and ppv for Pac v Cotto, if we did that we would see that Mayweather trumps Pac. Also Mayweather offered 40mil after Pac went on national tv saying he would accept less money for the fight. Mayweather called Pac with in a couple of days of that statement to which Pac aptly responded with 50/50 or nothing.

If you want to argue that numbers mean nothing then it would be a good idea to not cite the numbers.

where did I say numbers don't mean nothing. just quoting floyd. you can't take the cotto fight into account because floyd hadn't fought cotto yet at the time of the $40 mil bs offer. try to know the timelines before you come at me. the only common opponent they had with in that time frame was marquez. and pacquiao vs marquez 3 did better numbers. like I said since Mayweather came out of retirement up until the $40 mil bs offer, floyd had just fought three times since coming out of retirement and pacquiao had six fights since then. if floyd fought six times like manny did with in that time frame who knows he might of done similar or more numbers but he didn't and manny did. while floyd was in retirement or vacation manny was holding down the sport fighting twice a year. then floyd comes back from vacation and thinks he's top spot... please... it wasn't about the money, it was respect and that bs offer was a disrespect to manny. you don't come back from vacation, fight an Ortiz, cheap shot em (even though Ortiz deserved it but it was still a cheap shot) and think you running things now. while the other guy was bustin his ass, grinding, and putting in work. how would you feel if a part time guy that just got back from a long vacation at your job got promoted before you and here you was working fulltime, overtime, weekends, holidays just to help keep the business going.

like I said it's all about "RESPECT!"

[sosiqwitit]

just last week:

flomos: yeah pac can say whatever he wants, but it wont mean anything because after his fight he'll juist say talk to my promoter.

after the fight:

manny: yes i want floyd, thats the fight the fans want, they deserve it.

flomos: manny had his chance, he should have never turn down the $40mil offer from floyd. pac blew it so its his fault.

If we took both those numbers at face value, you do realize that you're actually hurting your argument. So Mayweather did comparable numbers to Pac in a 3 fight span after Mayweather was inactive for almost 2 years. That kind of looks better for Mayweather's argument does it not? The only way you can truly know who's the bigger draw is by comparing similar fights for ppv for Mayweather v Cotto and ppv for Pac v Cotto, if we did that we would see that Mayweather trumps Pac. Also Mayweather offered 40mil after Pac went on national tv saying he would accept less money for the fight. Mayweather called Pac with in a couple of days of that statement to which Pac aptly responded with 50/50 or nothing.

If you want to argue that numbers mean nothing then it would be a good idea to not cite the numbers.

where did I say numbers don't mean nothing. just quoting floyd. you can't take the cotto fight into account because floyd hadn't fought cotto yet at the time of the $40 mil bs offer. try to know the timelines before you come at me. the only common opponent they had with in that time frame was marquez. and pacquiao vs marquez 3 did better numbers. like I said since Mayweather came out of retirement up until the $40 mil bs offer, floyd had just fought three times since coming out of retirement and pacquiao had six fights since then. if floyd fought six times like manny did with in that time frame who knows he might of done similar or more numbers but he didn't and manny did. while floyd was in retirement or vacation manny was holding down the sport fighting twice a year. then floyd comes back from vacation and thinks he's top spot... please... it wasn't about the money, it was about respect and that bs offer was a disrespect to manny. you don't come back from vacation, fight an Ortiz, cheap shot em (even though Ortiz deserved it but it was still a cheap shot) and think you running things now. while the other guy was bustin his ass, grinding, putting in work and holding it down. now how would you feel if a part time guy that just got back from a long vacation at your job got promoted before you and here you was working fulltime, overtime, weekends, holidays just to help keep the business going.

like I said it's all about "RESPECT!"

[scap]

Haha! Is that the Clubber Lang scene from Rocky 3?

End/thread

No this was a quote from my left foot.

[mathed]

Come on floyd u gotta catch mannnies fade.

Floyd is going to get that ass taxed.

[SlySlickSmooth]

Not a peep out of Floyd yet

[DondiNeverLeft]

Floyd is going to get that ass taxed.

Floyd will only get taxed if he fights in America. He should fight in Macau and avoid the tax...lol

[jjsmyth87]

Duckweather

One only has to go on Youtube and watch interviews of Floyd Mayweather himself in his own words to know who truly doesn't want the fight. In an interview with Bob Costas, he talks about how he called Pacquiao and made him the 40 million dollar offer and no PPV split, which caused Pacquiao to hand the phone off to his advisor. He then states that Pacquiao sent negotiators to Las Vegas to get the fight made, but that Mayweather was unwilling to give up any PPV numbers whatsoever. Bob Costas asked why and he said because he just plain old refuses. In a recent interview with Fox Sports, the attractive woman interviewing him asked about the Pacquiao fight, and he said he wouldn't be happy if he had to fight him. She looked surprised and asked why, and he gave some ******ed answer that didn't make any sense or have any logic. He said because he is a boss and Pacquaio isn't lol that was his reasoning. He also said that Pacquiao keeps saying to do it for the fans, but that he doesn't care because he only fights for himself and not the fans. In a recent interview his father Floyd Sr. stated that the fight should definitely happen, comparing it to Ali Frazier, and that Mayweather needs the fight and can beat him whether he believes it or not. The day after Floyd gave an interview threatening to fire him for making those statements. Muhammad Ali tweeted to Floyd Mayweather recently saying he should fight Pacquiao for his legacy. Floyd deleted the legend off of his Twitter. Even before his fight with Cotto on the face off with Max Kellerman, Max asked him if he cares about his legacy and he said his legacy is fine without Pacquiao. The examples go on and on and on. Why his fans still believe that Mayweather really wants it and that Pacquiao and Arum are the ones ducking is truly beyond me when Floyd in his own words says over and over again he doesn't want the fight. Compare this to Pacquiao who has been saying for years that he wants the fight, but that it is up to his promoter to make it happen which is the truth. He has called him out numerous times and Floyd even referenced this in said face off with Max Kellerman. He claimed Pacquiao made his career by piggybacking off floyds fame by calling him a chicken for not fighting him, which is laughable considering he became a huge ppv star way before mayweather came out of retirement. Look at the facts and not the hype floidiots.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

where did I say numbers don't mean nothing. just quoting floyd. you can't take the cotto fight into account because floyd hadn't fought cotto yet at the time of the $40 mil bs offer. try to know the timelines before you come at me. the only common opponent they had with in that time frame was marquez. and pacquiao vs marquez 3 did better numbers. like I said since Mayweather came out of retirement up until the $40 mil bs offer, floyd had just fought three times since coming out of retirement and pacquiao had six fights since then. if floyd fought six times like manny did with in that time frame who knows he might of done similar or more numbers but he didn't and manny did. while floyd was in retirement or vacation manny was holding down the sport fighting twice a year. then floyd comes back from vacation and thinks he's top spot... please... it wasn't about the money, it was about respect and that bs offer was a disrespect to manny. you don't come back from vacation, fight an Ortiz, cheap shot em (even though Ortiz deserved it but it was still a cheap shot) and think you running things now. while the other guy was bustin his ass, grinding, putting in work and holding it down. now how would you feel if a part time guy that just got back from a long vacation at your job got promoted before you and here you was working fulltime, overtime, weekends, holidays just to help keep the business going.

like I said it's all about "RESPECT!"

As I said for Mayweather to be out of boxing for almost 2 years then come back and do comparable numbers does not support your point it hinders it. I wasn't just talking about the Cotto fight, you can't compare different opponents and say see this guy is bigger then that guy, what we can do though is take the similar opponents and see who sold better. No matter how hard you try to argue the answer would be Mayweather. Mayweather has out sold Pac when you compare the same fighters they each fought, De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosely, Hatton,Cotto. If you tally up these 5 fights Mayweather sold more. And to my last point Mayweather didn't offer the 40mil because he thought he was a bigger draw, he offered 40 mil after Manny said he'd take less for the fight. Mayweather said it himself. I never said 40mil wasn't a bs offer, but it was in response to Pacs national declaration, which he made again recently.

[Real Hero]

And what are we gonna hear from you when we hear that he signed for the fight? Excuses?

He needs to respond first, he's nowhere to be found right now!!!