Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Still on Course To Drop Down if No Mayweather

[sargo]

Cotto ran away from him. Mosley ran away from him. DelaHoya quit, and Mosley was quitting too if not for Richardson. Margarito who was huge got beat up, Pacquiao getting also hurt in the process. Clottey stayed in his shell. Winning record against 3 of Mexico's finest of all time. Opponents like Barrera, Morales and Bradley showing respect after fighting him.

The guy is great, not just a product of hype and marketing. If that were the case, he would not be the first one to do what he has done. Arum has been in the business for years and he has not had anyone achieve what Pacquiao has. No one.

[Robbie Barrett]

Pac weighs below 147 weeks before a fight. On weigh-ins he is well below 147. And he is a real welterweight?

Even the Mayweathers felt he should not fight Cotto and after beating Cotto up, not just beating him, the term A-side meth was coined.

You guys just won't give Pacquiao credit for whatever pathetic reasons you may have. He is a great, once in a lifetime kind of fighter. One of the greatest of all time. He just happens to be non-black, non-white and non- Hispanic.

I've already posted his fight night weights. He weighs mostly 150/151. Not as small as people make him out to be.

[master_rose]

Unless a mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. materializes, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38KOs) is still on course to drop down to 140-pounds in 2015.

Pacquiao has been fighting at 147-pounds against much bigger men since 2008. During that period, he actually went up to 150-pounds to beat Antonio Margarito for the WBC 154-pound title and took one trip down to 140, to beat Ricky Hatton for the IBO title.
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He's going to drop down anyway. This is simply a publicity stunt...

There is no negotiation underway whilst Arum is managing Pac.

Arum says Pac calls the shots.

Pac says talk to my promoter.

Put it together!

[sargo]

I've already posted his fight night weights. He weighs mostly 150/151. Not as small as people make him out to be.

And what was the fight-night weight of Margarito against him?

You can nitpick, twist all the facts. What's obvious is there's a flyweight who's gone up successfully to welterweight and not only won, but one-sidedly defeated some of the greatest fighters of all time. He not only has a record 8 dvision championship, but also a record 4 division lineal championship. Not even the great promoter Bob Arum has been able to manipulate anyone else's carreer to be close to Pacquiao's. There is no one else. And while Mayweather does his best to discredit Pacquiao, the Pacman is just plain ready to fight him. Win or lose. Because Pacquiao has already lost, and in a very bad way to his main rival, but people still love him, and he therefore has no fear of losing. What about Mayweather?

[Robbie Barrett]

And what was the fight-night weight of Margarito against him?

You can nitpick, twist all the facts. What's obvious is there's a flyweight who's gone up successfully to welterweight and not only won, but one-sidedly defeated some of the greatest fighters of all time. He not only has a record 8 dvision championship, but also a record 4 division lineal championship. Not even the great promoter Bob Arum has been able to manipulate anyone else's carreer to be close to Pacquiao's. There is no one else. And while Mayweather does his best to discredit Pacquiao, the Pacman is just plain ready to fight him. Win or lose. Because Pacquiao has already lost, and in a very bad way to his main rival, but people still love him, and he therefore has no fear of losing. What about Mayweather?

Margarito was 165.

Armstrong held the equivalent of 6 of todays lineal titles all at the same time. Eat that sucker.

[sargo]

Margarito was 165.

Armstrong held the equivalent of 6 of todays lineal titles all at the same time. Eat that sucker.

Sucker?

Just shows how confident you are about your arguments.

Equivalent of 6 lineal titles. Fine. That's Armstrong, another all-time great. Did Bob Arum promote him? Anybody else?

[MisanthropicNY]

at least he's finally admitting he can't hang with the big boys..vacate the wbo 147 title and let real welterweights fight for it.

Replace wbo 147 with Floyd's 154 pound titles, and this statement makes sense...

[Strategic1]

These PAC-haters are something else. ..fools. Talking about fight night weights blah blah blah.

There are body types, ideal weights, physical attributes to consider. The fact is 90% of the time he's giving up height and reach to his opponent, and at 147 he's going against NATURALLY physically stronger people.

Fight night weight is just a small factor. Just visually, you see the difference.

Only guys who are his size is JMM, and Tim Bradley moreso in height.

But Bradley for example, walks around in the 160s and his upper body is pure muscle. His height is similar to PAC but strength wise, he's stronger.

PAC's walk around weight is somewhere in the high 140s to low 150s. 140lb division have guys more his size..in height, reach, natural body type-weight.

[MDPopescu]

Who is to be found at 140? Lucas?... Broner?... (because I suspect that Crawford would rather stay at 135 in case Pac is going south...)

[sargo]

These PAC-haters are something else. ..fools. Talking about fight night weights blah blah blah.

There are body types, ideal weights, physical attributes to consider. The fact is 90% of the time he's giving up height and reach to his opponent, and at 147 he's going against NATURALLY physically stronger people.

Fight night weight is just a small factor. Just visually, you see the difference.

Only guys who are his size is JMM, and Tim Bradley moreso in height.

But Bradley for example, walks around in the 160s and his upper body is pure muscle. His height is similar to PAC but strength wise, he's stronger.

PAC's walk around weight is somewhere in the high 140s to low 150s. 140lb division have guys more his size..in height, reach, natural body type-weight.

I don't think they are regular boxing fans. I think they are part of TMT or is Floyd himself typing or making somebody type for him after the post is read to him. When you do everything to discredit something or someone that is obviously great, you have an agenda. Why would a regular boxing fan have that? I think Floyd is ducking Pacquiao, but even though he has not fought the best at their primes, he is obviously still a great fighter and not just a product of good matchmaking. He is not as great as he thinks he is, but he is a great, despite all his prima donna demands like gloves,etc.