Anyone else think that James Kirkland not fighting is good for him?

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  • FrankJack
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    Anyone else think that James Kirkland not fighting is good for him?

    Don't get me wrong; as a fan, I love to watch the guy fight. With the exception of the Nobuhiro Ishida fight, he is very entertaining to watch. But, in all honesty, he's a very limited fighter. It seems rare that all action, high volume fighters have long successful careers and I don't see him as being one of the exceptions. I do think that he is his own worse enemy in regards to his career. But, I also think that, potentially, him being out of the ring for the moment will save him from some punishment and IF he does ever get his career back on track, will give him a few more good years and us a few more great fights.
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    I do not agree at all. As a fan, I truly only care about my well being and entertainment. I only care about getting entertained at their expense so I want to see fighters like Kirkland be more active and provide me with fun wars. They get paid millions so that's the trade off.

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    • FrankJack
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      We definitely differ on that one, then. I like to be entertained but not when I think it's overly detrimental to the fighter. I don't mind him not fighting now, if it results in him being able to fight longer later. Delayed gratification (is that the term???), I guess.

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #4
        Originally posted by Golovkin
        I do not agree at all. As a fan, I truly only care about my well being and entertainment. I only care about getting entertained at their expense so I want to see fighters like Kirkland be more active and provide me with fun wars. They get paid millions so that's the trade off.

        Worst user on this board. They aren't animals put on this earth for your entertainment. They are human beings with family friends and a career in boxing.

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        • ELPacman
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          I don't think it's good but I see your concern. My concern would be all the punishment he takes in his fights is never a good thing. On the upside, I love seeing him fight as he's one of my favorite to see. All action fighter with crazy fights. The longer he's shelved, the more rust he can have when he comes back.

          But I also see where you don't want him to get too beat up and be spent early shortening his career lifespan. It's just the downsides of his style of fighting. It's not too late for him to change it up a bit and become more of a boxer but his style and who he is, I doubt you can change.

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          • FrankJack
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            Those are good points, Elpacman. If he were able to change up his style, I don't think it would have to be anything drastic; a bit more defense on his part could do a world of good for him, I think. But, I'm not sure if Ann Wolfe (if she's still training him) can do that for him, but I also don't think James is as functional as a fighter without Wolfe. I definitely see your point about the ring rust, as well.

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            • Tuavale
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              #7
              Originally posted by FrankJack
              Don't get me wrong; as a fan, I love to watch the guy fight. With the exception of the Nobuhiro Ishida fight, he is very entertaining to watch. But, in all honesty, he's a very limited fighter. It seems rare that all action, high volume fighters have long successful careers and I don't see him as being one of the exceptions. I do think that he is his own worse enemy in regards to his career. But, I also think that, potentially, him being out of the ring for the moment will save him from some punishment and IF he does ever get his career back on track, will give him a few more good years and us a few more great fights.
              No, that's ******. And he's more than a face 1st brawler. He's a brutal pressure fighter that outlands opponents 3 or 4 to 1. He's in his physical prime, he needs to fight. Now is the time to fight top opposition and make as much money as he can. The longer he sits, the worse it is. And it appears he is no longer with the Wolfe either which I'm not pleased about.

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              • PK3434
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                Disagree.

                James Kirkland would be (more of) a criminal if he didn't box. He already is broke, owes a huge amount of child support and he seems to have no other skills that would help him making a living.

                He needs to be active in boxing for his own well being, besides the fact that he is fun to watch for the fans.

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                • FrankJack
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                  To be honest, I think if he's already broke then no amount of fighting now or later will help him in a financial aspect. I could be wrong, hope so, in fact. But, if you don't know how to manage a little, then, generally, you won't know how to manage a lot. I think he could probably get all the big fights out there now and get rich, but in the end, he'll still end up broke and do something detrimental outside of the ring. But, I do respect your point on that one, it's a good point.

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                  • Crazylegs77
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                    #10
                    Yes, its good for him to not fight, gives him more time to work on his armed robbery skills.

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