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  • luisivich
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    #121
    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
    Should have took at 40 mil + 35% upside.
    that was tweeted by espinoza nov 11. he deleted it.

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    • richardt
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      #122
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      You got my point Richardt. I just wish when other fighters change their mind you give the same adult rationale and not fall into the usual NSB morass.
      I don't have a problem with every time a fighter changes his mind, I have a problem with the hypocrisy of compromising "morals" when it suits a fighter. But for people to complain about Pac speaking about Mayweather, there is a line between what is petty and what is not and that's way too petty. Next Pac will talk about how he wants to buy his wife a blue dress and then if he decides to buy a red dress a week later, Pac haters will jump all over Pac for it. And if this were reversed, I would have no interest in charging Mayweather for mentioning Pac after saying he wouldn't. I have actually defended Mayweather over some things. I'm more concerned when Mayweather commits greater infractions.
      Last edited by richardt; 11-21-2014, 01:15 PM.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #123
        Originally posted by richardt
        I don't have a problem with every time a fighter changes his mind, I have a problem with the hypocrisy of compromising "morals" when it suits a fighter. But for people to complain about Pac speaking about Mayweather, there is a line between what is petty and what is not and that's way too petty. Next Pac will talk about how he wants to buy his wife a blue dress and then if he decides to buy a red dress a week later, Pac haters will jump all over Pac for it. And if this were reversed, I would have no interest in charging Mayweather for mentioning Pac after saying he wouldn't. I have actually defended Mayweather over some things. I'm more concerned when Mayweather commits greater infractions.
        If manny says he isn't going to mention Floyd's name then does-you have to expect blowback from that. Unfortunately, that is the environment Manny fans have created on NSB. If you post something like-asking for testing equals ducking-what do you expect people to say if Manny asks for testing?

        Anyway, you are correct, we all change our minds. Lets just make sure ALL actually means ALL.

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        • richardt
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          #124
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          If manny says he isn't going to mention Floyd's name then does-you have to expect blowback from that. Unfortunately, that is the environment Manny fans have created on NSB. If you post something like-asking for testing equals ducking-what do you expect people to say if Manny asks for testing?
          "asking for testing equals ducking" is more volatile and I can see where Floyd fans would react but as I said, something's are just too trivial and the part about Pac saying Floyd's name is in that vein.

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            • Evol
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              #126
              ^^^ lol...

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              • b00g13man
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                #127
                Originally posted by richardt
                And anyone with an IQ above a ******ed Frog would know both Pac and Floyd are to blame for the fight not happening. Each guy has acted like the alpha-male but are more or less Diva's in reality. The back and forth on who is to blame on this site is pure insanity because the facts very clearly indicate that both have put up obstacles and what percent is whose fault doesn't diminish the fact that both are obviously to blame, bottom line.
                No. If he hadn't run away screaming from a 50/50 split because of drug testing (which he's in favour of now), we would've had our fight by now. That's a fact.

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                • SeekDaGreat
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                  #128
                  Is Floyd currently shot? We'll never know until next May 15. He spent since the end of 2013, until his next fight ****ing around with a guy that at has been severely outboxed on more multiple occasions.

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                  • richardt
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by b00g13man
                    No. If he hadn't run away screaming from a 50/50 split because of drug testing (which he's in favour of now), we would've had our fight by now. That's a fact.
                    No, that is an OPINION. It is an OPINION because you are ASSUMING Floyd would not have put up more obstacles and even Pac for that matter. It is also a FACT that Mayweather said he would not work with Arum and it is a fact that Mayweather also said Pac had to beat JMM and Bradley first before he would get a shot at him, etc, etc, etc, etc. You would have to be seriously punch drunk to be blind to the obstacles Floyd has put up. Anyone not seeing those is in complete denial. And it is a fact that BOTH guys are to blame. Not arguable, not up for debate. Get out a dictionary and look up FACTS and OPINIONS since you are having difficulty with their definitions and the difference between them.
                    Last edited by richardt; 11-22-2014, 06:50 PM.

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                    • b00g13man
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by richardt
                      No, that is an OPINION. It is an OPINION because you are ASSUMING Floyd would not have put up more obstacles and even Pac for that matter. It is also a FACT that Mayweather said he would not work with Arum and it is a fact that Mayweather also said Pac had to beat JMM and Bradley first before he would get a shot at him, etc, etc, etc, etc. You would have to be seriously punch drunk to be blind to the obstacles Floyd has put up. Anyone not seeing those is in complete denial. And it is a fact that BOTH guys are to blame. Not arguable, not up for debate. Get out a dictionary and look up FACTS and OPINIONS since you are having difficulty with their definitions and the difference between them.
                      There were clearly no more "obstacles". Team Manny even introduced the ridiculous $10m per pound over the weight limit clause (which was absolutely insane btw), and Floyd agreed to that.

                      Everything, and I mean everything else had been settled. Only one man walked away though over a perfectly reasonable testing clause. One he no longer has an issue with. How can that man not be held accountable for the deal falling apart?

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