Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: It's Obvious Floyd Mayweather is Avoiding Me!

[Bronx2245]

Who do you think would have the power to "instruct" Espinoza not to talk about the negotiations?

[Chris Bauermeis]

Hate to break it to the morons on the site. But ummmmm Manny talks about Floyd before and after fights!

Ummmmmm Manny walked away from 50% of the biggest fight in HISTORY over a 14 day cutoff.

[KO'er]

Oh great, this again.

More talk.

[R_Walken]

Of course hes avoiding you that's why his team has been the ones that initiated to make this fight and your promoter has always made exuses.

Don't worry PAC when Arums done juicing you for all he can make and it's time to cash out , he's going to make that fight

[bigjavi973]

November 15th, 2014

by Robert “Big Moe” Elmore:

I penned an article about Top Rank CEO Bob Arum claiming that Showtime and HBO were on board to do the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight in 2015 as told to the UK-based newspaper “The Independent” on September 2nd of this year. At that time, neither Ross Greenberg (HBO sports president) nor Steve Espinoza (Showtime sports president) came forward to support Arums claims. It was later confirmed that Pac was moving back to 140 to finish his career. At least we now know that Arum’s claims that Showtime was on board were correct. According to Espinoza, three months ago, they offered Pac a minimum of 40 million dollars with a 35% percent of the pay per view upside.

Arum told fighthype.com on November 11th of this year that Floyd was reluctant to fight Manny. Floyd has not uttered a word, but it’s very clear that an offer was made. What is interesting about this offering from Espinoza to Arum is that it was offered three months ago and Arum has not answered.

My guess Arum is trying to see what the outcome of Pac’s fight with Chris Algieri will be. But make no mistakes an offer was made. So my question is; judging by the pure concrete evidence that an offer was made, why did Arum pass on the offer? My opinion is this and I will stand by it: I sincerely believe that Floyd and Pac want to fight each other. They really do. I do not think Arum wants it. Strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza has been in both (Floyd and Pac) camps and has said both fighters want the bout to happen.

I’m not going to indulge myself with the past remarks by both fighters because it will be a waste of time. I’m dealing with right here; right now. And now, there is a 40 million dollar minimum offer plus 35% of the pay per view revenue that was made to Top Rank which was turned down by Arum.

http://www.************.com/2014/11/...loydpac-fight/

**** Bob Arum!!!

[radioraheem]

November 15th, 2014

by Robert “Big Moe” Elmore:

I penned an article about Top Rank CEO Bob Arum claiming that Showtime and HBO were on board to do the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight in 2015 as told to the UK-based newspaper “The Independent” on September 2nd of this year. At that time, neither Ross Greenberg (HBO sports president) nor Steve Espinoza (Showtime sports president) came forward to support Arums claims. It was later confirmed that Pac was moving back to 140 to finish his career. At least we now know that Arum’s claims that Showtime was on board were correct. According to Espinoza, three months ago, they offered Pac a minimum of 40 million dollars with a 35% percent of the pay per view upside.

Arum told fighthype.com on November 11th of this year that Floyd was reluctant to fight Manny. Floyd has not uttered a word, but it’s very clear that an offer was made. What is interesting about this offering from Espinoza to Arum is that it was offered three months ago and Arum has not answered.

My guess Arum is trying to see what the outcome of Pac’s fight with Chris Algieri will be. But make no mistakes an offer was made. So my question is; judging by the pure concrete evidence that an offer was made, why did Arum pass on the offer? My opinion is this and I will stand by it: I sincerely believe that Floyd and Pac want to fight each other. They really do. I do not think Arum wants it. Strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza has been in both (Floyd and Pac) camps and has said both fighters want the bout to happen.

I’m not going to indulge myself with the past remarks by both fighters because it will be a waste of time. I’m dealing with right here; right now. And now, there is a 40 million dollar minimum offer plus 35% of the pay per view revenue that was made to Top Rank which was turned down by Arum.

http://www.************.com/2014/11/...loydpac-fight/

**** Bob Arum!!!

According to Bob Arum, in a new interview with Karceno/***************, he says kinda indirectly that a Mayweather vs. Pacquaio fight is being negotiated on the low. But definitely and clearly says that Espinoza has been ordered to not say another word again about it. And that Espinoza is out of the loop in regards to negotiations about the fight. Should we believe Bobby this time?

Arum 'Espinoza told he can't mention one word about Mayweather vs Pacquiao talks'

[bigjavi973]

karceno is an idiot with no boxing knowledge if you are gonna listen to someone on youtube, try 78sportstv and boxing beats and rhymes.

[jbpanama]

I was just posting the article because I didn't see this covered on this site. Maybe I missed it. However, I am not validating the article because I don't know if Espinoza is telling the truth. What I do know is this:

January 7, 2012:

Friday's turn of events made that pretty clear. There have been previous negotiations and lots of rhetoric. At various times throughout this whole ordeal, I believe both sides have been to blame.

But at this moment, the fault of a fight not being made falls squarely on the shoulders of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who, in my view, simply doesn't want to make the match at a moment when there seems to be no legitimate impediment...

It was just this week that Arum said he would go to the Philippines to meet with Pacquiao and present him with the names of four possible opponents for May or June: Miguel Cotto, Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Timothy Bradley Jr.

Arum figured Mayweather would be in jail and off the table. Now that Mayweather is available and seemingly would like to make the match, Arum suddenly isn't interested.

He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.
I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...yweather-fight

Nice Take on a Issue that is based on FRAUD

making overtures, that He knows Pac's people will Reject....

Pac's calling Boy out, yet again....LOUD And CLEAR!!!

Start at 50/50, and go from there....Pac does the A side PPV #s

Oh I forgot The FRAUDSTER won't do Business with Top Rank....Ha Ha Ha!!!

[ShoulderRoll]

It's obvious this thread is going to get 55 pages.

Get those PPV buys Pac.

I know, right? It's so obvious that this is what Team Pac does every time he has a fight coming up.

[Bronx2245]

According to Bob Arum, in a new interview with Karceno/***************, he says kinda indirectly that a Mayweather vs. Pacquaio fight is being negotiated on the low. But definitely and clearly says that Espinoza has been ordered to not say another word again about it. And that Espinoza is out of the loop in regards to negotiations about the fight. Should we believe Bobby this time?

Arum 'Espinoza told he can't mention one word about Mayweather vs Pacquiao talks'

After the 2012 fiasco, i'll never trust Bob!