Pulev has 11 KO's in 20 wins, how can he hit harder than Lyle? Foreman said Lyle hit harder than both Joe Frazier and Gerry Cooney. (he fought Frazier and Cooney)
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Wladimir gets KO'd by Foreman and Tyson (link to where he got wobbled by Pulev)
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Originally posted by Money Shot View PostI suspect Pulev hits harder than Lyle, a good bit harder, and Lyle had Foreman on the floor. That's my only point. And you look at the way Pulev finished Dimitrenko and Ustinov, I'm not convinced Lyle stops these two guys. He would outbox them, but stopping them I doubt it.
There's no comparison between Poolev and Lyle and you clearly haven't watched Lyle fight.
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Young Tyson would have a good chance because of the explosiveness, but I suspect he's be badly knocked out just like Pulev tonight, certainly any version post 1988 is KO'd. And we saw vs Smith that he can be tied up pretty easily. Wlad would tie him up, outbox and punish him.
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Originally posted by KO'er View PostPulev has 11 KO's in 20 wins, how can he hit harder than Lyle? Foreman said Lyle hit harder than both Joe Frazier and Gerry Cooney. (he fought Frazier and Cooney)
Pulev has fought much bigger and stronger men and he never fought anyone quite as strong as Wladimir.
Don't hate, congratulate.
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If any of these two in their primes land a clean shot of course they stop him. But that's not only the case with Wlad, but with almost any fighter in the history of the game.
Only people who don't watch Wlad's fights making the claims on his chin.
Go watch Haye, Wach, Chagaev, Ibragimov fights... Again nothing wrong with that chin.
Not Vitali's chin, but decent, average chin among the champions.
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Originally posted by Money Shot View PostYoung Tyson would have a good chance because of the explosiveness, but I suspect he's be badly knocked out just like Pulev tonight, certainly any version post 1988 is KO'd. And we saw vs Smith that he can be tied up pretty easily. Wlad would tie him up, outbox and punish him.
Pulev has never been stopped before in his entire career, he doesn't have a glass jaw but he was made to quit he took some serious punishment.
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Originally posted by Red Cyclone View PostHow many opponents did Lyle fight that were genuine big men weighing well past that 210/220lbs mark?
Pulev has fought much bigger and stronger men and he never fought anyone quite as strong as Wladimir.
Don't hate, congratulate.
Take a look at Lyle-Shavers and see the difference in skills, power, everything. Lyle is on another planet to Pulev who stands with his feet in cement, chin in the air sticking out a jab.
Even Lyle's jab is in another stratosphere to Pulev's.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostThen you are freakin delusional mate. Lyle was a really good fighter, and hit much harder than Pulev. He also had excellent head and footmovement and threw every punch in the book, threw combinations, had a good chin etc.
There's no comparison between Poolev and Lyle and you clearly haven't watched Lyle fight.
I said he was a good boxer, maybe a top fifteen hw in the 70's, but a lot smaller than Pulev, 20-25 lbs smaller. Very much doubt he hit as hard. Watched several of his fights, vs Bugner, Quarry, Foreman, Ali. He wasn't a big puncher and any claim he was is BS. His record was not one of a big puncher, but he put down Foreman who some **** is claiming would be a Wlad eater. no he isn't.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostWhat's your point? being heavier is better?
Take a look at Lyle-Shavers and see the difference in skills, power, everything. Lyle is on another planet to Pulev who stands with his feet in cement, chin in the air sticking out a jab.
Even Lyle's jab is in another stratosphere to Pulev's.
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