Wladimir gets KO'd by Foreman and Tyson (link to where he got wobbled by Pulev)

[Elroy1]

I said he was more coordinated than the 90s version of himself. However, it's not a stretch to say he's more coordinated than pulev. The guy looks like he was being controlled on strings by a puppet master, unbelievably rigid.

My answer to that is, the same as for the last 20 or so opponents of Wladimir Klitschko...

He was fighting Klitschko, who'se style is to disable the opponents style, until they DON'T move anymore.

Wladimir should be credited for doing it.

Not Pulev discredited for not being able to.

THIS^ is what you and so many others cannot swallow.

It's not because the opponents are bad, they are good.

It's because Wlad is REALLY good.

[-Kev-]

Wow, he wobbled pretty clearly after that jab. His legs became like jelly. He took back the round though with those two KD's. Pulev is a pretty good fighter, he's not a bum. I expected more of him, but Wlad is just too good. Wlad also wrestles too much.

[LacedUp]

Lol, its good that we can mention Wlad in the same breath as those historical legends of the sport.
He is right up there with the very best and ill be interested to see how long he can keep his form up.
He is 37 or 38 yo and he is knocking out someone who has never been stopped that is very impressive, if he can share somewhat close to the same longevity as Bhop he will go down as one of the greatest to grace the division.

He'll go down as a top 10 heavyweight when it's all said and done for sure.

[Elroy1]

George Foreman was coordinated in the early half of his career?
In comparison to Pulev.... ummm

I don't see it, I really, really don't see it at all, maybe you never watched his earlier half of his career.
We never got to see possibly the best of Foreman and that is a scary prospect because I think he is that damn good but to call him a controlled fighter in his early half of career is idiotic you've clearly not paid much attention to his fights.

If George fought like he did in his younger days when came back into boxing he likely would have been laid out for it, I don't deny how good his chin is but he took defensive measurements to avoid unnecessary punishment and he found the correct balance of it.

I agree. Overall Foreman was a great boxer and I think we did miss the best of Foreman too. If you can combine his 70's and 90's qualities somewhat, you would have one incredible machine.

[Elroy1]

Foreman and Tyson were both wrong for Wlad. I am sure they would stop him but give Wlad credit for beating guy like Chambers and Byrd. Elroy will tell you they were harder punchers.

What crack are you smoking? I have never, would never try and claim that 2 of the biggest featherfists ever in HW boxing, Byrd and Chambers, could hit harder than 2 of the hardest punchers, Foreman and Tyson.

Lies like this can only spell one thing...

LacedUp's alt!

[El-blanco]

My answer to that is, the same as for the last 20 or so opponents of Wladimir Klitschko...

He was fighting Klitschko, who'se style is to disable the opponents style, until they DON'T move anymore.

Wladimir should be credited for doing it.

Not Pulev discredited for not being able to.

THIS^ is what you and so many others cannot swallow.

It's not because the opponents are bad, they are good.

It's because Wlad is REALLY good.

I think wlads great man. I'm not trying to discredit him at all. That's why I don't bother posting in here. Everyone thinks the other guy has an agenda, when in reality I'm just saying pulev didn't look that great. Obviously, the guy he's fighting impacts that.

[Elroy1]

Is 201lbs well over 200 lbs? Fat Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd ate their way to CW. Haye put it on the weightroom.

In your mind there's a big big difference between fighting at 197 and 201 apparently.

Yeah Eddie Chambers would have been the king of all previous eras.



Our favourite Dinosaur, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. Three great fighters.

Eddie Chambers was WK's lightest opponent at 210lbs. Haye was about the same, Byrd was 215.

Foreman fought guys just under 200lbs and then some a bit more under too.

These 3 guys, 2 of them were defensive masters, unlike any actual CW or comparable sized boxer than Foreman faced.

Haye was so good overall that he blows any boxer Foreman 70's fought out of the water like a pocket battleship nuking a row boat!

[Alx.]

Wlad literally walked in to that jab. Also, the **** brah? Foreman, Ali, Lewis were all wobbled in their careers by opponents who you'd never think would even hurt them

[LacedUp]

What crack are you smoking? I have never, would never try and claim that 2 of the biggest featherfists ever in HW boxing, Byrd and Chambers, could hit harder than 2 of the hardest punchers, Foreman and Tyson.

Lies like this can only spell one thing...

LacedUp's alt!

What would happen if Byrd/Chambers fought Foreman?

[Elroy1]

What would happen if Byrd/Chambers fought Foreman?

It would either go 2 ways..

Either Foreman would eventually catch up with them and **** them out.

OR

Byrd/Chambers would run around and bend around him for the set rounds for a decision.

Both scenarios are plausible.

The one that isn't is Byrd/Chambers knocking Foreman out. And no I don't suppose either of them would ever try to "rope a dope" him until he gassed out. Even though that worked for Ali, it wasn't good strategy. It was desperation which paid off.