Is Kovalev p4p no. 1?

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  • Luilun
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pugilist95
    I heard a lot of people saying that Bernard should be number 1 p4p if he beats Kovalev but I haven't heard anyone saying that Kovalev should be no. 1.
    He should cause if Mayweather was 175 he would get the same beating a featherfister will do nothing to stop the Kovalev onslaught and that includes Ward

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    • FrankieBruno
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      #12
      no............

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      • #1Assassin
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        #13
        pass me whatever you are smoking.


        wait.. its not crack is it? its probably crack.. ill pass.

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        • soul_survivor
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          #14
          Originally posted by Pugilist95
          I heard a lot of people saying that Bernard should be number 1 p4p if he beats Kovalev but I haven't heard anyone saying that Kovalev should be no. 1.
          No, Kovalev isn't because the whole idea of P4P is that the guy, based on skills, natural attributes, heart, toughness and resume can be regarded as someone who is likely to beat 99% of foes, irregardless of weight. Kovalev is not that guy.

          Personally I think P4P lists are redundant at this stage with so many top names refusing to fight each other but if I made one, I'd have him somewhere on the bottom half of a top 10.

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          • HanzGruber
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            #15
            Rofl what? Nobody said bhop should be number 1 if he won

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            • mrpizza-nd_beer
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              #16
              Bernard was fighting D level foes. Look what happened when he faced someone legit, couldn'teven win a single round. So, NO, Kovalev doesn't even crack top 10 yet. A win over Stevenson would.

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              • Weebler I
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                #17
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                No, Kovalev isn't because the whole idea of P4P is that the guy, based on skills, natural attributes, heart, toughness and resume can be regarded as someone who is likely to beat 99% of foes, irregardless of weight. Kovalev is not that guy.

                Personally I think P4P lists are redundant at this stage with so many top names refusing to fight each other but if I made one, I'd have him somewhere on the bottom half of a top 10.
                Somewhere along the line, PFP lists went from being what you say to purely a comparison of records.

                I'd take a welterweight Kovalev to beat the current PFP #1, a SMW Kovalev to beat the #2 right now too. The guy's power is outrageous, and you'd assume that hypothetically that would be taken to whatever division he fought in. In saying that, if HWs are considered in PFP lists, I'd pick Wlad to keep him on the end of a jab and maybe stop him.

                It's kind of complicated to put a PFP list together like that, so PFP today is really a comparison of resumes for the most part.
                Last edited by Weebler I; 11-11-2014, 12:42 PM.

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                • boliodogs
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                  #18
                  Kovalev should be near the top of any pfp. list and so should GGG but pfp lists are just opinions and there is no way to prove those opinions right or wrong. Mayweather is still an excellent fighter but pfp I like the two Russian monsters better. Mayweather had a hard fight with Maidana while Kovalev and GGG beat the best fighters in their weight class with ease.

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                  • daggum
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Weebler I
                    Somewhere along the line, PFP lists went from being what you say to purely a comparison of records.

                    I'd take a welterweight Kovalev to beat the current PFP #1, a SMW Kovalev to beat the #2 right now too. The guy's power is outrageous, and you'd assume that hypothetically that would be taken to whatever division he fought in. In saying that, if HWs are considered in PFP lists, I'd pick Wlad to keep him on the end of a jab and maybe stop him.

                    It's kind of complicated to put a PFP list together like that, so PFP today is really a comparison of resumes for the most part.
                    if they were the same size you would pick wlad to win? wouldn't wlad's glass chin be instantly shattered? wlad's not exactly a great mover. he's a great clincher but we saw kovalev beat up hopkins on the inside. kovalev is just better than that fool. he's fighting pulev that's like kovalev fighting gatti.

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                    • -MAKAVELLI-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      You heard a lot of people saying Hopkins was P4P #1?

                      By a lot, do you mean nobody? .


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