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  • #11
    I'd say the worst part of fighting toe to toe is the fact you will be fighting toe to toe.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by jas View Post
      getting hit in the face
      Some like it. I know I do (at times), but I try not to engage cuz Hopkins is my dude. It is very appealing with guys whose shots you can absorb, however there are guys I wouldn't bother doing that with cuz they have serious power.

      So, the worst part imo is when the damage you've picked up starts to haunt you when you get old.

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      • #13
        Oh boy.

        This just took me back to a guy that I knew that would go toe to toe and the hardest thing for him would be in his pants!

        One of the damnedest things I've ever seen. He was a special kind of animal.

        SMH
        Last edited by - Ram Raid -; 11-05-2014, 06:40 AM.

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        • #14
          umm, you get punched...

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
            Some like it. I know I do (at times), but I try not to engage cuz Hopkins is my dude. It is very appealing with guys whose shots you can absorb, however there are guys I wouldn't bother doing that with cuz they have serious power.

            So, the worst part imo is when the damage you've picked up starts to haunt you when you get old.
            That's one of the things that's often overlooked in the sport because we tend to disavow it.

            I've met quite a lot of what was once termed 'job-in fighters' over the years who'd travel up and down the country and sometimes across Europe in their youth fighting in small halls and at times being unscrupulously overmatched by their managers who'd sell them as professional opponents whilst telling them they'd lined up winnable fights for them.

            Almost to a man you can see and hear the damage that they've accumulated over their careers. Some have spoken of there not being anything but the smallest sign when they retired, like the tendency to now and then scuff their foot when walking, but as the years rolled on it got steadily worse despite the fact that the no longer fought.

            I'm pretty sure there's many fighters from the pinnacle of the sport whose pride wouldn't allow them to mention that they've picked up damage along the way. For me the main reason I'd like the sport to be adequately governed and regulated, over sorting out the alphabet titles situation, is that the provision of pensions for retired fighters would be closer to happening.

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            • #16
              The transition from defense to offense is the most difficult part, that's what makes James Toney such a virtuoso.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by - Ram Raid - View Post
                That's one of the things that's often overlooked in the sport because we tend to disavow it.

                I've met quite a lot of what was once termed 'job-in fighters' over the years who'd travel up and down the country and sometimes across Europe in their youth fighting in small halls and at times being unscrupulously overmatched by their managers who'd sell them as professional opponents whilst telling them they'd lined up winnable fights for them.

                Almost to a man you can see and hear the damage that they've accumulated over their careers. Some have spoken of there not being anything but the smallest sign when they retired, like the tendency to now and then scuff their foot when walking, but as the years rolled on it got steadily worse despite the fact that the no longer fought.

                I'm pretty sure there's many fighters from the pinnacle of the sport whose pride wouldn't allow them to mention that they've picked up damage along the way. For me the main reason I'd like the sport to be adequately governed and regulated, over sorting out the alphabet titles situation, is that the provision of pensions for retired fighters would be closer to happening.
                I think a big problem is guys who box are not actually fans of the sport at all and hardcores have never probably been in a gym.

                You could hand some guys any belt and they'd genuinely believe they are World champs. I myself have spoken to pros and when I tell them something just from being a fan they're really surprised as if I'm an industry insider lol. So, these guys need to do their own homework.

                I believe pension is not the way to go, however I do think they should help them out with learning a skill so plumbing, electrician etc, which is cheaper to fund instead of life long responsibility of pension.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
                  I think a big problem is guys who box are not actually fans of the sport at all and hardcores have never probably been in a gym.

                  You could hand some guys any belt and they'd genuinely believe they are World champs. I myself have spoken to pros and when I tell them something just from being a fan they're really surprised as if I'm an industry insider lol. So, these guys need to do their own homework.

                  I believe pension is not the way to go, however I do think they should help them out with learning a skill so plumbing, electrician etc, which is cheaper to fund instead of life long responsibility of pension.
                  You done patting yourself on the back or what?

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                  • #19
                    It's not a matter of difficulty it's a matter of risk.

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                    • #20
                      Inside fighting takes a great deal of skill that is why you do not see it as much today..it is easy to stand toe to toe and just throw punches, but great inside fighting is getting yours in and avoiding shots in return

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