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  • -Kev-
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    #11
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    I don't think Hunter is that good of trainer. I don't see his fighters doing that well on average other than Ward of course. Ward may be so talented he makes a trainer look good. Angulo and Khan seemed worse since they went with Hunter.
    A defensive boxer can't expect to become a successful all-out brawler by joining Robert Garcia's stable. A brawler can't become a defensive genius by joining Mayweather Sr, Hunter, or become the second coming of Rigondeaux if they hire Jorge Rubio. This is what fans/fighters alike are all thinking. You hire Floyd Sr, you learn all the tricks Mayweathr Jr has. You hire Hunter, you become the next Andre Ward, you hire Nacho, you become an explosive counterpunching machine like Marquez.

    Obviously, Angulo has to work with trainers like Garcia, Roach, or Abel Sanchez. Trainers that are used to working with more offensively oriented fighters. Ricky Hatton working with Mayweather Sr was comedy, it was disastrous.

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    • -Kev-
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      #12
      Maidana joining Garcia is a good example of a powerful brawler becoming even better at his style because he joined a trainer/stable that specializes in his style, barring Mikey Garcia.

      I think another disaster waiting to happen is Khan and Hunter, because Khan has too much brawling in him. He's a boxer for a few rounds but once you clip him he becomes a brawler. There will be nothing Hunter could do to help him. Khan needs to join Robert Garcia or go back to Roach. Fighters like Miguel Vazquez, Carlos Molina could use a guy like Hunter.

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      • Pigeons
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        #13
        Everyone's leaving Virgil.

        Boxing is funny that way. You win a Trainer of the Year award and everybody flocks to you, when these guys realize that the trainer can't fight in the ring for them, they leave. New trainers are simply a mental boost for fighters looking for an edge.

        Virgil Hunter is a good trainer, I don't doubt that, but he can't change the tendencies of established pros. No one can, that is why fighters should ride with the guy that got them there from start to finish. Loyalty cannot be taught, but it is essential for a fighter's career.

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        • BodiesInFlight
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          #14
          Not exactly a match made in heaven to begin with

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          • daggum
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            #15
            the way he threw those slappy arm punches against canelo i could have swore he already switched trainers to enzo calzaghe

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            • Chiboxing123
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              #16
              He's completely shot. Has nothin left. But hey why not fernando Vargas vs Angulo.lol I kid I kid

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              • VAGAB0ND
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                #17
                Damn, disappointed to hear that Angulo isn't retiring. It was awesome how Angulo almost scored the dramatic, late comeback K.O. against De La Rosa, but he's shot. An Angulo with a quarter tank of gas left in the tank would have beat the f**k out of that De La Rosa dude.

                Even more so than the Kirkland, Lara, and Canelo beatings, I think the 9 months Angulo spent in immigration jail did the most damage to him, both mentally and physically.

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                • Box-Office
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  A defensive boxer can't expect to become a successful all-out brawler by joining Robert Garcia's stable. A brawler can't become a defensive genius by joining Mayweather Sr, Hunter, or become the second coming of Rigondeaux if they hire Jorge Rubio. This is what fans/fighters alike are all thinking. You hire Floyd Sr, you learn all the tricks Mayweathr Jr has. You hire Hunter, you become the next Andre Ward, you hire Nacho, you become an explosive counterpunching machine like Marquez.

                  Obviously, Angulo has to work with trainers like Garcia, Roach, or Abel Sanchez. Trainers that are used to working with more offensively oriented fighters. Ricky Hatton working with Mayweather Sr was comedy, it was disastrous.
                  Awesome post man!

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                  • Tuavale
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                    #19
                    Always liked Perro but his prospects don't look too good right now. I wish him well.

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