How many of these lineal middleweight champs do you pick Cotto over?

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  • Ray Corso
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    #41
    Cotto at his very best needs to weigh 140lbs! He has no power against the top tier welters and middles. He got Sergio at the right time and I don't consider Sergio a top fifty middle so stopping Sergio was a good win but nothing tremendous, he was whipped his last time out.

    Beating Basilio and Monzon?????? You must be from Disney Land, Cotto gets demolished by both of them and its not close!!!!
    Ray.

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    • Beater_of_ass
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      #42
      Originally posted by I_like_wendys
      I think Cotto beats all of them at middleweight NOW, in the way I think he beats Basilio and Fullmer now, in the same way he beats Carlos Monzon now, in the way he beats Marvin Hagler now...

      Cotto's all heart, but Sergio when he was at his best, which was
      "pretty good," resembled an argentine Roy Jones. Hands all low, avoiding punches purely with foot movement and a little bending at the waist.
      That, and he had a good chin with power and a showed lot of heart when he fought Cintron, Williams, Pavlik, Jr. Murray even Cotto.

      Too much power from all of the listed fighters. Everyone of them get Cotto out of there by the middle rounds.
      Why people think Sergio was some slickster in his prime is beyond me. The BEST Sergio is when he fought who? Pavlik? You realize that Pavlik is much slower than Cotto because of his size and is less skilled than Cotto, because Cotto is the much better technical boxer. Pavlik landed 45% of power punches on Sergio, that is NOTHING like Roy Jones, nothing. Martinez has always had **** defense and got hit ALL THE TIME because his hands were down. People come in here as fans of Martinez because he is in great fights, fun to watch fights.

      Guess what? If Martinez was slick his fights would be boring like Floyd and Roy, but they aren't because he gets hit a lot and he wants to hit a guy. Cotto beats the **** out of Martinez any day of the week and twice on Sunday at any time in their careers.

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        #43
        Just Jermain Taylor.

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        • Da Boxer
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          #44
          Cotto beats Taylor and Martinez, goes to war with Pavlik and may be outclassed by Hopkins.

          That's how I see it.

          Prime Cotto @ 160 vs. the rest!

          Just being honest people!

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            #45
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
            Why people think Sergio was some slickster in his prime is beyond me. The BEST Sergio is when he fought who? Pavlik? You realize that Pavlik is much slower than Cotto because of his size and is less skilled than Cotto, because Cotto is the much better technical boxer. Pavlik landed 45% of power punches on Sergio, that is NOTHING like Roy Jones, nothing. Martinez has always had **** defense and got hit ALL THE TIME because his hands were down. People come in here as fans of Martinez because he is in great fights, fun to watch fights.

            Guess what? If Martinez was slick his fights would be boring like Floyd and Roy, but they aren't because he gets hit a lot and he wants to hit a guy. Cotto beats the **** out of Martinez any day of the week and twice on Sunday at any time in their careers.
            My exact language was Martinez was a "pretty good" fighter. Roy Jones at his best was an all-time great.
            Martinez did try to imitate Roy in the ring, any one of his fights after he reached the top show that. He wasn't the best at it, because he just didn't have Prime Roy's reflexes, ever.
            Martinez did a "pretty good" Roy Jones impression.
            Martinez didn't have legs when he fought Cotto. He moved around like he was boxing with boots on.
            Martinez vs. Cotto would've been fun if Martinez had his legs. I've got nothing but love for Cotto, he beat Martinez and always comes to fight. Both guys are true Champs, both guys fought with a lot of courage, and never took a nickel from me they didn't earn.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Da Boxer
              Cotto beats Taylor and Martinez, goes to war with Pavlik and may be outclassed by Hopkins.

              That's how I see it.

              Prime Cotto @ 160 vs. the rest!

              Just being honest people!
              Cotto is not Prime at 160. Thats 20 pounds overweight of his prime.

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              • LacedUp
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                #47
                I misunderstood the poll.

                Thought it was who I'd pick to beat Cotto, which is all of them except for maybe Jermain Taylor.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                  The Sergio Martinez that def. Kelly Pavlik in 2010

                  The Kelly Pavlik that def. Jermain Taylor in 2007

                  The Jermain Taylor that def. Bernard Hopkins in 2005

                  The Bernard Hopkins that def. Felix Trinidad in 2001
                  the size differents makes the differents.

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