The Mayweather that beat Corrales beats anyone ever below 147

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I think the lightweight from Cuba named Jose Napoles would beat Mayweather at 130, 135, 140 or 147. Napoles was the welterweight champion for many years but he was a natural lightweight and the number 1 rated fighter in the world first at 130, then 135 and then 140. All the champions refused to fight him at those weights. Finally courageous Curtis Cokes gave Napoles a shot at his world welterweight title and Napoles won by KO. Yes, good fighters were often ducked in those days just as GGG is ducked today. Napoles in his prime could easily match Mayweather for speed and skill. Napoles had an iron jaw and real power in both hands. He threw blinding fast, accurate powerful combinations and he never got tired. He threw lots of good punches every round. He defected from Cuba to Mexico as a young fighter and was very popular there. One of his welterweight title defenses was a one sided win over the great Emile Griffith. That is how good he was.

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So does that same logic apply to Floyd using a CW on Alvarez?

Yes and no , not all CWs are equal it depends on the individual , 2 lb to Canelo is different to 2 lb to Cotto with one being at 147 and the other at 154 the bigger man has a lesser % of himself to lose , the higher the weight class the less effect it can have the lower the weight class the more effect the same 2 lb will have , with Cotto he stated he was drained , Canelo never said anything , both CWs were for the purpose of making the fight easier for the smaller fighters , but the 2 CWs did not have the same physical effect on the opponent , same as with Oscar he was really really bad , dead man walking , Cotto was not this bad but was weakened by the CW , Canello would have been also weakened but not as much .

Like I said in the beginning CWs are not ALL the same .

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Cotto said himself that he felt fine making the 145 catch-weight. Just sayin

While under top rank contract , when out of it he said " I will not sacrifice my body like that for another fighter "

Cotto was pressured into that fight by Arum , Cotto didnt want his title on the line because of the CW , Manny originally wanted 144 and Cotto said no way .

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Yes and no , not all CWs are equal it depends on the individual , 2 lb to Canelo is different to 2 lb to Cotto with one being at 147 and the other at 154 the bigger man has a lesser % of himself to lose , the higher the weight class the less effect it can have the lower the weight class the more effect the same 2 lb will have , with Cotto he stated he was drained , Canelo never said anything , both CWs were for the purpose of making the fight easier for the smaller fighters , but the 2 CWs did not have the same physical effect on the opponent , same as with Oscar he was really really bad , dead man walking , Cotto was not this bad but was weakened by the CW , Canello would have been also weakened but not as much .

Like I said in the beginning CWs are not ALL the same .

Btw, Cotto had to lose 1lb @ 146 while Canelo had to lose 2lbs @ 154. It can not be more equal than that..

The Oscar fight wasn't at a CW.... and did you want Pacquiao to fight him at 154 instead? Who the **** could be able to jump 3 weight classes? Oscar was still the superstar, he could had commanded the fight @ 154 but decided not to.

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Btw, Cotto had to lose 1lb @ 146 while Canelo had to lose 2lbs @ 154. It can not be more equal than that..

The Oscar fight wasn't at a CW.... and did you want Pacquiao to fight him at 154 instead? Who the **** could be able to jump 3 weight classes? Oscar was still the superstar, he could had commanded the fight @ 154 but decided not to.

You talk jump up 3 weightclasses yet he was 147 in the ring as a LW , just learn this stuff before you shoot your trap off , you are all about numbers and labels yet have no clue what they really mean in the real world on fight night .

Cotto didnt have to lose 1 lb he was had to lose about 12 + 1 more thats the bit you dont understand , ever heard the saying about the straw that broke the camels back , it has relevance here .

And Oscar was a CW , contract weight placed on a fighter that is fighting in a higher weightclass , again you run with the hype train .

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Just rewatched that fight, I really think that was an extremely underrated win for Floyd.
People forget that Corrales at the time was undefeated and steam rolling guys at 130,
Floyd made it look easy and absolutely outclassed him. I've never seen such a clinic at that weight.

Chavez Duran ManaciniTsyzu all beat him

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Chavez Duran ManaciniTsyzu all beat him

Sure they do lol , Hatton beat Tsyzu and Hector Lopez gave KT the fight of his life , everybody you mentioned were ALL beaten by much lessor fighters than Floyd , your logic is totally flawed in so many ways , in reality you're doing nothing more than name dropping .

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You talk jump up 3 weightclasses yet he was 147 in the ring as a LW , just learn this stuff before you shoot your trap off , you are all about numbers and labels yet have no clue what they really mean in the real world on fight night .

Cotto didnt have to lose 1 lb he was had to lose about 12 + 1 more thats the bit you dont understand , ever heard the saying about the straw that broke the camels back , it has relevance here .

And Oscar was a CW , contract weight placed on a fighter that is fighting in a higher weightclass , again you run with the hype train .

Your fighting a lost cause here friend. The catch weight was fair and Cotto was quite alright with it. It's debatable whether the wbo belt should have been on the line but the outcome would have happened whether it was at 140, 145, or 147 for that matter

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Your fighting a lost cause here friend. The catch weight was fair and Cotto was quite alright with it. It's debatable whether the wbo belt should have been on the line but the outcome would have happened whether it was at 140, 145, or 147 for that matter

If it didnt matter why did Manny not fight at the division weight , he fought Oscar at 147 , of course it mattered , if weight doesnt matter why did Manny call Cotto out for his 154 title then want another CW and run away when Cotto said yes but no CW , there is only one obvious answer , the weight is what beat Cotto otherwise Manny would have fought him at 147 just like Oscar , the second time around Manny would say I beat Cotto before I can do it again ,,,, with a CW lol

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Sure they do lol , Hatton beat Tsyzu and Hector Lopez gave KT the fight of his life , everybody you mentioned were ALL beaten by much lessor fighters than Floyd , your logic is totally flawed in so many ways , in reality you're doing nothing more than name dropping .

First off....Tsyzu was obviously not in his prime when he lost to Hatton. Floyd wouldn't have a problem with him though imo. And as for Chavez I think the welterweight version of Floyd would run and outpoint him for the UD. But at 130 Floyd would have been blown out of the park. Why don't you watch this little fight I have for yea. Floyd Mayweather vs Jesus Chavez, a guy that emulated JCC sr in every facet. The guy was much smaller, with much less skills. This guy gave Floyd all he could handle. here I'll even give you a link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMUtiU_benI

The only reason Floyd won was because he got lucky and made Jesus outpunch himself. JCC Sr would not have tired like that.
Duran with out a shadow of a doubt would have beaten Floyd at 135. The guy was an animal and if anyone beats Floyd at this weight range it's him.