Mayweather Snr; Golovkin is just power, Floyd beats him

[johnm is...]

I don't troll, I keep it real. he wants no part of a REAL challenge. When I say he makes 154lb comfortably, I mean the division is not too BIG for him. He is not a little welterweight, man. You are trolling if that's what you believe. He was as big as Mosley, Maidana, Ortiz, The Ghost, he was two weight classes bigger than Roidquez. He is at least a full weight class larger than Manny Pacquiao, also. You have to understand the science of boxing to understand this. Manny can make 140lb and is 143lb right now as proof. It's his natural division. Floyd is a natural welterweight BUT he cannot make 143lb, let alone 140lb without being a Zombie. FACT.

1, there's not a single fact in your post.

2, you don't have to know "boxing science" to understand that if a guy is at 143 right now, he can make 140 lbs.

3,

Carry on.

[hugh grant]

So you're willing to take the word of Mayweather's loud mouth daddy, but when it comes to Roy, you need to hear it straight from his own mouth?

That seems strange.

Well I hear Floyd say he can beat anyone at 154, so why not GGG? Floyd is the TBE supposedly, so show us what you got Floyd and justify it. Beating your opponents less impressively than your peers do, don't prove jack.
So do something no one else could do. Alexander and Khan may have beat Maidana better than Floyd. Pac may have beat Miguel and hatton better than Floyd.
But they cant boast they beat GGG at 160.

[johnm is...]

Well I hear Floyd say he can beat anyone at 154, so why not GGG? Floyd is the TBE supposedly, so show us what you got Floyd and justify it. Beating your opponents less impressively than your peers do, don't prove jack.
So do something no one else could do. Alexander and Khan may have beat Maidana better than Floyd. Pac may have beat Miguel and hatton better than Floyd.
But they cant boast they beat GGG at 160.

GGG at 154 gains him no credit. The "he had to drain him" excuses will start before they even begin camp. And he shouldn't be asked to go to 160. He's much too small for that.

I know you're a big Khan guy, but he didn't beat Maidana more decisively than the Mayweather rematch.

[GOD-FR33]

The honest truth about Floyd.....

Here's my honest opinion about Floyd as a fighter. He was on his way to being an ATG up until his welterweight debut against Shamba Mitchell, I believe. As soon as he became his own Boss, it has been a curse more than a gift. He avoids the best like the plague. I think he's a great fighter but he's a bit overrated. The first Castillo fight should've been his first loss. He struggled big time with a faded De La Hoya who was up by a round on all three core cards after 8 rounds. Floyd had to sweep 9-12 to win. What if that was prime Oscar? Who could move and didn't tire as easy? Against Cotto, he struggled and took a beating. He rallied once again. This was a shop worn Cotto!!!! Against Canelo, he drained the kid and was damn near as big as he was on fight night. Against Maidana, he took a beating in the first fight and got embarrassed. In the rematch, which was unnecessary, he won but got hit even cleaner. He was hurt bad at the end of the third and got his tooth knocked out. What if Maidana had 30-40 more seconds? So, why is Floyd so great? We don't know how great he truly is because he avoids the type of fighters who may prove his greatness. Triple G would KO this version of Floyd.

[HanzGruber]

1, there's not a single fact in your post.

2, you don't have to know "boxing science" to understand that if a guy is at 143 right now, he can make 140 lbs.

3,

Carry on.

Lol "facts".

It set the tone for the fight as Maidana, who rehydrated to 165 pounds on fight night compared to Mayweather's 148

And for Ortiz. Floyd 150, Ortiz 164

[johnm is...]

Lol "facts".

It set the tone for the fight as Maidana, who rehydrated to 165 pounds on fight night compared to Mayweather's 148

And for Ortiz. Floyd 150, Ortiz 164

Those numbers are rigged, doe.

They lie about it to make Floyd look good, doe.

150 and 164 are basically the same thing, doe.

Facts are facts, sir.

[The Big Dunn]

Here's my honest opinion about Floyd as a fighter. He was on his way to being an ATG up until his welterweight debut against Shamba Mitchell, I believe. As soon as he became his own Boss, it has been a curse more than a gift. He avoids the best like the plague. I think he's a great fighter but he's a bit overrated. The first Castillo fight should've been his first loss. He struggled big time with a faded De La Hoya who was up by a round on all three core cards after 8 rounds. Floyd had to sweep 9-12 to win. What if that was prime Oscar? Who could move and didn't tire as easy? Against Cotto, he struggled and took a beating. He rallied once again. This was a shop worn Cotto!!!! Against Canelo, he drained the kid and was damn near as big as he was on fight night. Against Maidana, he took a beating in the first fight and got embarrassed. In the rematch, which was unnecessary, he won but got hit even cleaner. He was hurt bad at the end of the third and got his tooth knocked out. What if Maidana had 30-40 more seconds? So, why is Floyd so great? We don't know how great he truly is because he avoids the type of fighters who may prove his greatness. Triple G would KO this version of Floyd.

The Ring Magazine voters understand how great Floyd is. the only people who don't are manny fans and those who hate Floyd. Its not surprising that you are a member of both of these groups.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

floyd fighting at 154 and ggg fighting at 160 is a three division gap?

floyd is a ww he belongs at 147, he fights at 152 he can barely even make 154 ggg is a 160+ fighter thats why i said almost 3 divisions

[Crazylegs77]

Remember that counter shot Maidana hit Floyd with?

GGG counters even when hes getting puched with a solid shot in the face.

Seems reasonable to say Floyd would get punched at least a few times, could he take the power? Would be a good fight.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Remember that counter shot Maidana hit Floyd with?

GGG counters even when hes getting puched with a solid shot in the face.

Seems reasonable to say Floyd would get punched at least a few times, could he take the power? Would be a good fight.

he wouldnt be able to handle it and hes getting hit more then ever these days with shots he never would have got hit with in his prime i dont think fighting GGG would be wise GGG needs to stay where he is and then move up in weight as did the majority of the current WW division, they all moved up from smaller weights this is what GGG should eventually do, going to 154 makes no sense.