Comments Thread For: Mayweather Blasts De La Hoya: He's a Piece of ****!

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

Agree with Floyd. I lent Oscar my favourite corset and fluffy handcuffs ages ago and he still hasn't given them back.

[IMDAZED]

$100 million dollars for the fighters and according to what you posted, another $40 million for Arum just to step aside (which is what Floyd wanted, right? Only thing stopping him from fighting now, right?) So Floyd would've gotten $50 million up front just for signing on the dotted line with at worst 45% of a possible $150-200 million windfall. And who's to say there weren't any interested investors back in 2009? Falcon Hawk wasn't the only entity trying to sponsor the fight- there were other groups making similar offers from all over the world. That fight at its height was a guaranteed bet for anyone looking to make a sure, easy investment with immediate returns.

Falcon Hawk was a conglomerate of music industry types (ie Michael Jackson's father, producer Donny Rucker) much like Al Haymon was a music industry type before getting into Boxing. Where do you think he got Floyd (before the Showtime deal) and other fighters' guarantees from?

Why is it so outlandish in your mind that rich people with money to throw around would look to make an easy buck by investing in the biggest money fight of all time? Seems only natural that they would be eager to get an easy, fast return on their money.

We never heard of investors in 2009. Stop trying to pretend that 'maybe there were.' Maybe ***** was involved too!

And yet again we make up more stuff. Falcon Hawk is a conglomerate? Tell me exactly what they're successes are. Don't worry, I'll wait.

[ReIoaded]

We never heard of investors in 2009. Stop trying to pretend that 'maybe there were.' Maybe ***** was involved too!

And yet again we make up more stuff. Falcon Hawk is a conglomerate? Tell me exactly what they're successes are. Don't worry, I'll wait.

I thought Roger Mayweather was one of the managing members of Falconhawk Entertainment?

[ThePrince]

We never heard of investors in 2009. Stop trying to pretend that 'maybe there were.' Maybe ***** was involved too!

Who cares if we didn't hear about them? Doesn't mean there weren't any. Again... where do you think Al Haymon, a former music industry player like the Falcon Hawk group, comes up with the tens of millions of dollars necessary to pay his fighters (and step aside money)?

And yet again we make up more stuff. Falcon Hawk is a conglomerate? Tell me exactly what they're successes are. Don't worry, I'll wait.

I don't have access to their business portfolio so your guess is as good as mine. But Arum said their offer (as well as any other offer) would've been vetted by investment banking powerhouse Allen & Company.

But there's no reason to believe their offer wasn't legitimate, unless of course it was all some elaborate Pacquiao or Arum scheme to make Floyd look like he turned down $50 million guaranteed and a 55/45 split for no conceivable reason

[ReIoaded]

Who cares if we didn't hear about them? Doesn't mean there weren't any. Again... where do you think Al Haymon, a former music industry player like the Falcon Hawk group, comes up with the tens of millions of dollars necessary to pay his fighters (and step aside money)?



I don't have access to their business portfolio so your guess is as good as mine. But Arum said they're offer (as well as any other offer) would've been vetted by investment banking powerhouse Allen & Company.

But there's no reason to believe their offer wasn't legitimate, unless of course it was all some elaborate Pacquiao or Arum scheme to make Floyd look like he turned down $50 million guaranteed and a 55/45 split for no conceivable reason

Can somebody please explain why Legal Documentation lists Roger Mayweathers as a managing member of Falconhawk Entertainment?

Here is a link to Falconhawk's business info:

http://www.companies-nevada.com/falcon-hawk-entertainment-ii-llc-eyfz/

[IMDAZED]

Who cares if we didn't hear about them? Doesn't mean there weren't any. Again... where do you think Al Haymon, a former music industry player like the Falcon Hawk group, comes up with the tens of millions of dollars necessary to pay his fighters (and step aside money)?



I don't have access to their business portfolio so your guess is as good as mine. But Arum said they're offer (as well as any other offer) would've been vetted by investment banking powerhouse Allen & Company.

But there's no reason to believe their offer wasn't legitimate, unless of course it was all some elaborate Pacquiao or Arum scheme to make Floyd look like he turned down $50 million guaranteed and a 55/45 split for no conceivable reason

If we didn't hear about any investors then we don't need to pretend they existed. End that.

Second, what a lame a** response. I don't have Top Rank's portfolio on hand but I can easily list a strong of successes they've had. Falcon Hawk? They've had NOTHING of note done under their company. But sure, they can fund this fight.You're falling hard, buddy boy.

[ThePrince]

Can somebody please explain why Legal Documentation lists Roger Mayweathers as a managing member of Falconhawk Entertainment?

Here is a link to Falconhawk's business info:
http://www.companies-nevada.com/falc...t-ii-llc-eyfz/

Weird, probably promised him a position for making the introduction to Floyd.

If we didn't hear about any investors then we don't need to pretend they existed. End that.

Plenty of promoters get outside funding for their fighters purses and other promotional costs. This includes Haymon who uses his music industry contacts to come up with fighter purses. Just because they don't reveal where they get their investments from, doesn't mean they're going out of pocket. That's just terrible business and incredible naievete. What Falcon Hawk was proposing wasn't anything revolutionary, it was actually business as usual... just with much more capital.

Second, what a lame a** response. I don't have Top Rank's portfolio on hand but I can easily list a strong of successes they've had. Face it, they've had NOTHING of note done under their company. You're falling hard, buddy boy.

Joe Jackson was the founder and manager of the Jackson 5... that good enough for you? Is it really that crazy to think that in the 5 decades he's been involved in the music industry at the highest level he wouldn't have the ability to get a group together to come up with enough money to fund something like that?

What reason do you have to believe they were putting on a masquerade ball and weren't serious with their offer (other than it makes your God look bad)

[bigjavi973]

im not talking about the defamation lawsuit, im talking about the money arum owed for fights with gatti and judah, you say arum counter sued but was there even a lawsuit involved for that matter like you claim?

What happened to floydies lawsuit to arum? Guess it disappeared into thin air.

[bigjavi973]

and now people say cotto is a shot fighter, because he stepped in the ring with that cheating piece of mierda... so floyd not fighting margarito actually turned out to be a smart buisness move after all huh??? de la hoya wanted to fight cotto and bob arum kept that fight from happening just like may/pac

Shot fighter? Ever heard of styles makes fights? After his uncle left he was stylistically a different fighter.

[IMDAZED]

Weird, probably promised him a position for making the introduction to Floyd.



Plenty of promoters get outside funding for their fighters purses and other promotional costs. This includes Haymon who uses his music industry contacts to come up with fighter purses. Just because they don't reveal where they get their investments from, doesn't mean they're going out of pocket. That's just terrible business and incredible naievete. What Falcon Hawk was proposing wasn't anything revolutionary, it was actually business as usual... just with much more capital.



Joe Jackson was the founder and manager of the Jackson 5... that good enough for you? Is it really that crazy to think that in the 5 decades he's been involved in the music industry at the highest level he wouldn't have the ability to get a group together to come up with enough money to fund something like that?

What reason do you have to believe they were putting on a masquerade ball and weren't serious with their offer (other than it makes your God look bad)

Many promoters? Tell me the last time Arum and GBP had to do that for a fight.

Again, please list the successes this group has had. You seem to have so much faith in their management so spit it out.

Don't worry, I'll wait.