My HOF ballots for 2014

**crold1** · 10-09-2014, 09:03 PM

And here is this year's BWAA sheet for all the 2014 nominees in the Modern category:

http://www.bwaa.us/2014/10/10/2015-i...fame-nominees/

**Sugar Adam Ali** · 10-09-2014, 09:07 PM

Can you explain your old timers pick

And also why you chose some guys like bowe, lacier over guys like Eubanks, curry, etc..
What was your deciding factor..

Just curious

**Pigeons** · 10-09-2014, 09:10 PM

Do you think Genaro will ever get elected?

Is there a maximum amount of time that you can be a nominee? For example in baseball, you have something like 15 years on the ballot, and then you can only be elected by the Veteran's Committee, is there something similar for boxing?

**crold1** · 10-09-2014, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali

Can you explain your old timers pick

And also why you chose some guys like bowe, lacier over guys like Eubanks, curry, etc..
What was your deciding factor..

Just curious

Bow's two wins over Holy make him one of the top 25 Heavyweights all time IMO. Put aside P4P...Heavyweight is literal. I take that into account. I'd vote for Vitali Klitschko when he came up as well.

Laciar was a fantastic fighter with wins over some high quality guys like Roman and Zapata with a significant, quality reign at 112. He was not the ballot before Benn etc. so that weighed for him (and some others). If I was voting for them before, I mostly stuck with them. They've waited longer and none are slam dunk first ballot.

I lobbied hard for Benn and Eubank to be up at least for a vote over the years and will consider them in another year. Voting for just five is tough. I've never voted for Curry but have begun to reconsider that.

And what is it you want to know on Old Timers?

**crold1** · 10-09-2014, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Pigeons

Do you think Genaro will ever get elected?

Is there a maximum amount of time that you can be a nominee? For example in baseball, you have something like 15 years on the ballot, and then you can only be elected by the Veteran's Committee, is there something similar for boxing?

He may. Lot of people loved him. I wouldn't vote for him. I don't think he quite reached that caliber.

There is no max time currently.

**IIG** · 10-09-2014, 09:26 PM

I hope Hamed makes it in. Also Eubank, though I can understand why you didn't vote for him.

**crold1** · 10-09-2014, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by IIG

I hope Hamed makes it in. Also Eubank, though I can understand why you didn't vote for him.

Might later. Just had five to choose. Makes it tough.

**Sugar Adam Ali** · 10-09-2014, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by crold1

Bow's two wins over Holy make him one of the top 25 Heavyweights all time IMO. Put aside P4P...Heavyweight is literal. I take that into account. I'd vote for Vitali Klitschko when he came up as well.

Laciar was a fantastic fighter with wins over some high quality guys like Roman and Zapata with a significant, quality reign at 112. He was not the ballot before Benn etc. so that weighed for him (and some others). If I was voting for them before, I mostly stuck with them. They've waited longer and none are slam dunk first ballot.

I lobbied hard for Benn and Eubank to be up at least for a vote over the years and will consider them in another year. Voting for just five is tough. I've never voted for Curry but have begun to reconsider that.

And what is it you want to know on Old Timers?

Thanks for the response..

Can you explain some of the old timers achievements, and why you chose the 5 guys you did..

**crold1** · 10-09-2014, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali

Thanks for the response..

Can you explain some of the old timers achievements, and why you chose the 5 guys you did..

Booker was a beast who would likely have done more but for an injury too early. Beat Williams, Marshall, knocked out Moore and they had a good series. Been waiting to see his name. First time he was on.

The rest are all holdovers who I want to see cleared before I look at new ones. The one I lost from the ballot this year is Harry Jeffra. Gutted me. I'm a big advocate he should be in.

Kingpetch was the first Thai champ and beat two HOFers (Perez and Harada) and regained from Ebihara after a disaster in their first. Beautiful boxer when he was on.

Betulio Gonzalez was a huge piece of a great 112 era in the 70s, beat prime Canto, Espadas and a slew of others. Fought EVERYONE.

Ohba is the Japanese Sal Sanchez, a great fighter with several quality wins who died before he could finish his stamp. Overdue.

Gushiken was the first really great champ at 108 and dominated for a solid stretch. Great reign.

That's my vote thinking.

My HOF ballots for 2014