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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostWho cares what Ring Magazine thinks? History is what's important. It will have Manny ranked much higher than Floyd and Floyd will be remembered as a HOF'mer while Manny will be remembered as an ATG. Every ATG and Legend who speaks on Floyd, calls him a coward, basically. They admit he's skilled BUT he's skilled against B-C level fighters. Who's his biggest prime win, Dunn? What legacy fights has this man had?
1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Luis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55
You may want Floyd to be remembered that way, but clearly he will not be by anyone who really loves the sport. You may also want manny to be seen in a better light or ranked higher than floyd, but he likely will not be.
They both have more fights and where they are relative to each other may change. As for now, its Floyd and it isn't even really close.
Set your personal desires aside and accept it.
As for this thread, I made it clear Khan IMO is not deserving of a Floyd fight ahead of manny, Thurman, Bradley or brook.
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostWho cares what Ring Magazine thinks? History is what's important. It will have Manny ranked much higher than Floyd and Floyd will be remembered as a HOF'mer while Manny will be remembered as an ATG. Every ATG and Legend who speaks on Floyd, calls him a coward, basically. They admit he's skilled BUT he's skilled against B-C level fighters. Who's his biggest prime win, Dunn? What legacy fights has this man had?
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Still........
It wasn't just about that counter. WHY was Roidquez stronger than Manny Pacquiao? How is that possible after all these years? Dude punches so hard nowadays all of a sudden. Smh that people actually believe he Ko'ed Manny because of his skill. It's a FACT that he cheated. Why else was he so confident he'd pass the post fight tests? Why would he even hire a PED dealer who injected himself on national TV? Why would he start lifting weights? Why was his body so soft against Floyd at the same weight? Why did he damn near knock MA out of the ring on the other side? Smarten up people. Why did he turn down like $15million for a 5th fight? Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm. And these morons on here make GIFs and laugh like that **** was funny. He could've killed Manny, man. It's so obviously he's cheating, too.
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Khan needs a substantial win to make this fight even matter to the American PPV audience... Losing 2 of his last 4 fights with 2 wins over two journeymen, including Khan being dropped in a debatable fight in one of the fights...
Khan needs to beat like Kell Brook or Keith Thurman for anyone to actually give a fk about him challenging Floyd.. people are tired of Floyd fights now after that Maidana rematch...
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostIn the October issue of Ring magazine, they asked 20 writers and historians to list their top 20 fighters since World War 2. Here is how the total came out. The number of 1st place votes are in brackets:
1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Luis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55
You may want Floyd to be remembered that way, but clearly he will not be by anyone who really loves the sport. You may also want manny to be seen in a better light or ranked higher than floyd, but he likely will not be.
They both have more fights and where they are relative to each other may change. As for now, its Floyd and it isn't even really close.
Set your personal desires aside and accept it.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostTaking something one Floyd fan said and applying it to every Floyd fan is a little desperate. The fact remains that poking fun at fighters who get KTFO happens all the time. Only on NSB when Floyd does it do we have to go through 200 posts threads to discuss it.
"What does he bring to the table. We know he can get ko'd. We know he can get outboxed. What is it that he brings to the table?"
That doesnt sound like hes making fun of pac. Sounds more like hes discrediting him because he has been outboxed and ko'd. Floydie speaks for himself. Floydtards make excuses for him.
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[QUOTE=The Big Dunn;15011673]In the October issue of Ring magazine, they asked 20 writers and historians to list their top 20 fighters since World War 2. Here is how the total came out. The number of 1st place votes are in brackets:
1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Luis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55
Ezzard Charles being ranked ahead of Marciano is all I need to know about the credibility of that list...
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostIt wasn't just about that counter. WHY was Roidquez stronger than Manny Pacquiao? How is that possible after all these years? Dude punches so hard nowadays all of a sudden. Smh that people actually believe he Ko'ed Manny because of his skill. It's a FACT that he cheated. Why else was he so confident he'd pass the post fight tests? Why would he even hire a PED dealer who injected himself on national TV? Why would he start lifting weights? Why was his body so soft against Floyd at the same weight? Why did he damn near knock MA out of the ring on the other side? Smarten up people. Why did he turn down like $15million for a 5th fight? Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm. And these morons on here make GIFs and laugh like that **** was funny. He could've killed Manny, man. It's so obviously he's cheating, too.
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Okay..........
Okay. Take a real good look at this list. You mean to tell me that the only 8 division champion in the history of the sport isn't top 10-15, all-time?????? But Floyd is? Based on what? Where is Evander Holyfield on this list? **** this list!!!!!!!! Everyone on this list was fearless and Manny fits that build. This list was written by one of Floyd's people.
1. Ray Robinson - 396pts - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Luis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Perenell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55
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