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Originally posted by THE REED™His terms are unreachable, though.
Only Mayweather promotions can promote the fight?
He knows he is signed to Arum... he knows that is an impossibility.
When you create terms that are simply not doable, then you in essence are saying you don't want the fight.
There's agreeing to the A side, and then there's making demands so ridiculous that you get out of the fight without saying you dont want the fight.Originally posted by crazed_z06 View PostIn a sense he is dissing posters (read: Fans) with his constant excuses and ducking.
He always claims that he wants to give the fans what they want, but he doesnt the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of that. At a certain point, people get tired of having their intelligence insulted and giving money to a guy that disrespects the fans and runs the sport into the ground.
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How are these terms not do able? You guys kill me with avoiding the facts... HOW MANNY times does Roach have to say.. the first time it was PAC's fault and the rest were really BOB ARUM? everyone except Koncz and Arum have said this.... Oscar even said Bob was holding up the fight...
Next, is... how is it cool to fight someone that you think is on STEROIDS?
I know b/c it wasn't proven... which is true, but ROACH suing Ariza b/c of the possiblity of steroid use on Manny isn't concerning??? Roach was one of the first ones with Ariza in camp saying manny wasn't using but now they're in court b/c of it????
Again these are facts!
floyd said manny you're contract with arum is up dec 2013, dont sign with him and we can fight... what happens Manny signs with Arum...
Wasn't one of Arum's excuses that they needed to build a bigger arena and it wouldn't be ready in enough time to promo the fight?
I'm not saying it's fair but since Floyd is held accountable to fight someone possibly on roids...
Why did Manny duck the highest payment for a fight he'd ever gotten in the 40 million dollar phone call? 20 mill once they hung up????
I think it's funny that floyd is the one that always has to make the conesssion with dealing with this situation....
on top of that... you give manny credit for taking fights like Rios and Alegeri? but bash floyd????
Bash both... both haven't really fought the talent they should...
or... how about Arum still owes Floyd a few mill from Zab's fight... Why would you help someone get money only to pay you like they should have already???
neither fighter is scared... tell arum to move over... lets get this fight made...
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostNo, it's fans like you who make anything an excuse. Like what he says here had nothing to do with fighting Pacquiao. He's just trash talking, which is what fighters do. You people call that excuse but when Pacquiao says "I still want 50-50 in 2011" or "Blood test hurt me because I small, he big" then you think it's ok.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI have two things to say to that -- bear with me, REED:
1. One could just as easily argue that Pacquiao re-signing with Arum (a man who has said he'll never work with GBP, Haymon...a man who was in litigation with Floyd over money...a man who claims he didn't understand why Richard Schafer was calling him while at the same time saying he doesn't know who to call on Floyd's side...a man who found multiple excuses to avoid this fight on TWO occasions) was a sign that he wasn't interested in the fight either. After all, Manny could have done what Cotto did and then come back. Or what he made Mosley and Marquez do when they wanted to fight him. Works both ways.
2. When Floyd Mayweather wanted to fight Oscar De La Hoya, he had to leave Arum. And it was amicable. This is what was said:
Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.
Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
But forget all that...real talk...Pacquiao's Arum issue is not Floyd's problem. He's reached out multiple times. And proven his point. You want the fight? Act like it. The onus isn't on him anymore.
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I guess Guetrero and Maidana and Baldomir and Ortiz and all the other C class fighters weren't broke and looking for a payday. Only Pac who had made more money than all those guys put together.
The coward strikes again.
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Originally posted by IGotGame4Ya View PostHow are these terms not do able? You guys kill me with avoiding the facts... HOW MANNY times does Roach have to say.. the first time it was PAC's fault and the rest were really BOB ARUM? everyone except Koncz and Arum have said this.... Oscar even said Bob was holding up the fight...
Next, is... how is it cool to fight someone that you think is on STEROIDS?
I know b/c it wasn't proven... which is true, but ROACH suing Ariza b/c of the possiblity of steroid use on Manny isn't concerning??? Roach was one of the first ones with Ariza in camp saying manny wasn't using but now they're in court b/c of it????
Again these are facts!
floyd said manny you're contract with arum is up dec 2013, dont sign with him and we can fight... what happens Manny signs with Arum...
Wasn't one of Arum's excuses that they needed to build a bigger arena and it wouldn't be ready in enough time to promo the fight?
I'm not saying it's fair but since Floyd is held accountable to fight someone possibly on roids...
Why did Manny duck the highest payment for a fight he'd ever gotten in the 40 million dollar phone call? 20 mill once they hung up????
I think it's funny that floyd is the one that always has to make the conesssion with dealing with this situation....
on top of that... you give manny credit for taking fights like Rios and Alegeri? but bash floyd????
Bash both... both haven't really fought the talent they should...
or... how about Arum still owes Floyd a few mill from Zab's fight... Why would you help someone get money only to pay you like they should have already???
neither fighter is scared... tell arum to move over... lets get this fight made...
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@floydmayweather @ mannypacquiao Girl your butt was looking to big last night # big butt @mannypacquiao @floydmayweather you were wearing the wrong high heels and your purse didn't match # I would never #boo . Enjoy the only fight your going to see between these 2 clowns
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Originally posted by THE REED™Who do you think you're talking too?
Post with respect or you can gtfoh.
Im talking to Dazed.
I responded to your dumbass post. How is a man who called the other dude personally afraid of him? If you don't wanna be taken to task don't post dumb ****!!!! Anything else should be private dude, this is a PUBLIC forum!!!
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