Mayweather against all the top 147 pound champs in history

[richardt]

Okay, so what is your take on Mayweather against all these champs in their prime from 1975 on, with the exception of Robinson and Armstrong who I added and Carlos Polomino who I removed:

Leonard
Hearns
Duran (1980 Montreal)
Benitez
Cuevas
Whitaker
Curry
Starling
Simon Brown
McCrory
Trinidad
Oscar
Quartey
Armstrong
Robinson

The way I see it is Leonard by late TKO or comfortable decision. Too big, too fast, too strong.

Hearns by Early KO. If Judah, Corley, and Mosley could rock Mayweather, he is largely outgunned by Hearns. Mayweather only fights inside when he is on the ropes and Hearns keeps it at ring center and even inside, Hearns had a deadly left hook. His style is all wrong for Mayweather.

Robinson by mid-rounds stoppage. Too much speed, size, power, and skills.

Benitez a draw. His speed and defense would give Mayweather fits.

Duran by late TKO or decision. He would swarm Mayweather and is bigger, stronger, overall better than Jose Luis who arguably beat Mayweather.

Whitaker a draw. Similar to the Benitez fight.

Oscar by split decision. Mayweather edged an older Oscar. A younger one would have edged Mayweather.

Armstrong over Mayweather due to work rate and accuracy of Armstrong.

Mayweather split decision over Starling due to styles, Mayweather by close decision over Curry, Mayweather by comfortable decision over McCrory, Mayweather by decision over Quartey, Mayweather by wide margin over Brown, Mayweather by decision over Cuevas provided he doesn't get caught by a guy who has broken collar bones, jaws, ribs, turnbuckles, etc, and who hits harder than guys that rocked Mayweather, Mayweather by split decision over Trinidad.

What's your predictions? Many of these could be surprises and go the other way but I do not see Floyd who has never fought an ATG 147 pound fighter being able to handle Hearns, Leonard, and Duran of 1980 Montreal, and Robinson.

[ThePrince]

Leonard- I'm on vacation
Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing.
Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight.
Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico.
Cuevas- He got 15 losses.
Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems
Curry- Who?
Starling- Who?
Simon Brown- Who?
McCrory- Who?
Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best.
Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight.
Quartey- Easy Work.
Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test.
Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Jimmy Doyle.

[richardt]

Leonard- I'm on vacation
Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing.
Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight.
Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico.
Cuevas- He got 15 losses.
Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems
Curry- Who?
Starling- Who?
Simon Brown- Who?
McCrory- Who?
Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best.
Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight.
Quartey- Easy Work.
Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test.
Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Danny Boyle.

LOL!!!! Great response!! Especially the take the test one for Armstrong! But seriously, I do give him a chance against many of the former 147 pound champs.

[DLT]

who cares? Its his 4th division and he's still super small at the weight after all these years. Most of those guys were in there 1st division and huge. If you want to compare him to guys like SRL & Hearns then do it in a p4p sense like those 2 at WW vs Floyd at SFW. Floyd more than holds his own then

[richardt]

who cares? Its his 4th division and he's still super small at the weight after all these years. Most of those guys were in there 1st division and huge. If you want to compare him to guys like SRL & Hearns then do it in a p4p sense like those 2 at WW vs Floyd at SFW. Floyd more than holds his own then

I'm comparing him here because it doesn't matter what divisions he was in before, he would STILL be competitive with and beat a lot of 147 pound champs. Some even think he beats most if not all the 147 pound champs so apparently the weight classes Floyd came from, don't mean he doesn't stand a chance against the 147 pound champs. You talk about holding his own, so you think all the guys I mentioned beat him??? I don't. And the fact that he has fought at 147 for a long time and been a champ for a long time makes him fair game in comparing to other champs, some of whom have not had as many defenses as Mayweather has made. He is considered somewhere among the greats at 147. We DONT have to shrink other champs or expand Mayweather to make it fair unless Floyd had never fought at 147, which he obviously has, many, many times.

[Caught Square]

Okay, so what is your take on Mayweather against all these champs in their prime from 1975 on, with the exception of Robinson and Armstrong who I added and Carlos Polomino who I removed:

Leonard
Hearns
Duran (1980 Montreal)
Benitez
Cuevas
Whitaker
Curry
Starling
Simon Brown
McCrory
Trinidad
Oscar
Quartey
Armstrong
Robinson

Leonard- Sugar by split decision, i see this being razor thin but with Leonard getting the close rounds on 2 of the 3 cards with the more eye catching flurries.

Hearns- Hearns was a corpse at 147, although still a beast so if it was the same day weigh in like when he fought there i would say hearns wins a competitive decision but with a weigh in a day before the fight where he could rehydrate i would pick Hearns by 9th round KO. Stylistic nightmare for Mayweather but he is a nightmare for most people i guess, only guy i would pick with confidence to stop Mayweather.

Duran (1980 Montreal)- Mayweather hard fought unanimous decision. Duran is a great fighter of course but i feel this version of Duran is overrated in comparison to the rest of his time at 147. Not that he is overrated in general but i don't think he was so much greater on this night, it was a very close fight against Leonard, it's not like he just steamrolled him. This would be much more competitive at 135.

Benitez- Mayweather split decision, I agree he gives him fits but the same thing can be said in reverse. Benitez in my opinion may have never reached his full potential, not very disciplined especially compared to Mayweather.

Cuevas- Mayweather comfortable decision

Whitaker- Mayweather split decision, if it was at 135 i would pick Whitaker by split decision but i think at 147 Whitaker was a bit bloated and didn't grow into the division as well as Mayweather. The skill would be through the roof in that fight!

Curry- Mayweather close unanimous decision.

Starling- Mayweather Majority decision.

Simon Brown- Mayweather wide decision

McCrory - Mayweather wide decision

Trinidad- Trinidad can crack and is always dangerous but i think he just gets outboxed tbh.

Oscar- It's true Oscar had seen his best days and it was a competitive but clear (in my opinion) win for Mayweather but also it's worth considering:

A) the size difference wouldn't be as big at 147

B) neither fighter would really be the 'a-side' or the standout cash cow like Oscar was in their actual fight so judges may not be subconsciously giving Oscar the benefit of the doubt.

C) Oscar being near the end was sort of on a 'last hurrah' and was very emotionally involved in the fight, reminds me of Frazier's performance in the third fight with Ali in that he did much better than expected purely off motivation despite being past prime. I doubt a prime De La Hoya would waste so much energy early on which did give him some of the rounds on activity, instead i think it would be more of a chess match which favours Floyd.

I think it would be a competitive win for Mayweather but with less drama than their actual fight.

Quartey- Mayweather unanimous decision

Armstrong- Armstrong unanimous decision

Robinson- Robinson unanimous decision

[BOXEO _]

Leonard- I'm on vacation

Hearns- Floyd Mayweather is announcing that he retired from the sport of boxing.

Duran (1980 Montreal)- He got to shave his beard or no fight.

Benitez- He live in Puerto Rico.

Cuevas- He got 15 losses.

Whitaker- He still got Chavez problems

Curry- Who?

Starling- Who?

Simon Brown- Who?

McCrory- Who?

Trinidad- We ain't out here trying to prove who the best.

Oscar- Join the Money Team and we got a fight.

Quartey- Easy Work.

Armstrong- How he come up so many weight classes, huh? Take the test.

Robinson- Health comes first. I don't wanna be another Jimmy Doyle.

Sad but true. TBE doe..

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

leonard- sugar by split decision, i see this being razor thin but with leonard getting the close rounds on 2 of the 3 cards with the more eye catching flurries.

Hearns- hearns was a corpse at 147, although still a beast so if it was the same day weigh in like when he fought there i would say hearns wins a competitive decision but with a weigh in a day before the fight where he could rehydrate i would pick hearns by 9th round ko. Stylistic nightmare for mayweather but he is a nightmare for most people i guess, only guy i would pick with confidence to stop mayweather.

Duran (1980 montreal)- mayweather hard fought unanimous decision. Duran is a great fighter of course but i feel this version of duran is overrated in comparison to the rest of his time at 147. Not that he is overrated in general but i don't think he was so much greater on this night, it was a very close fight against leonard, it's not like he just steamrolled him. This would be much more competitive at 135.

Benitez- mayweather split decision, i agree he gives him fits but the same thing can be said in reverse. Benitez in my opinion may have never reached his full potential, not very disciplined especially compared to mayweather.

Cuevas- mayweather comfortable decision

whitaker- mayweather split decision, if it was at 135 i would pick whitaker by split decision but i think at 147 whitaker was a bit bloated and didn't grow into the division as well as mayweather. The skill would be through the roof in that fight!

Curry- mayweather close unanimous decision.

Starling- mayweather majority decision.

Simon brown- mayweather wide decision

mccrory - mayweather wide decision

trinidad- trinidad can crack and is always dangerous but i think he just gets outboxed tbh.

Oscar- it's true oscar had seen his best days and it was a competitive but clear (in my opinion) win for mayweather but also it's worth considering:

A) the size difference wouldn't be as big at 147

b) neither fighter would really be the 'a-side' or the standout cash cow like oscar was in their actual fight so judges may not be subconsciously giving oscar the benefit of the doubt.

C) oscar being near the end was sort of on a 'last hurrah' and was very emotionally involved in the fight, reminds me of frazier's performance in the third fight with ali in that he did much better than expected purely off motivation despite being past prime. I doubt a prime de la hoya would waste so much energy early on which did give him some of the rounds on activity, instead i think it would be more of a chess match which favours floyd.

I think it would be a competitive win for mayweather but with less drama than their actual fight.

Quartey- mayweather unanimous decision

armstrong- armstrong unanimous decision

robinson- robinson unanimous decision

good post!!!!!!

[Elroy1]

LOL!!!! Great response!! Especially the take the test one for Armstrong! But seriously, I do give him a chance against many of the former 147 pound champs.

Many of the guys on that list were naturally larger guys and wound up in much heavier weight classes. They could have eventually cornered and pummelled Floyd out by virtue of their size.

But given you've neutralised that benefit at an effective weight for Floyd it's pretty obvious Floyd beats all on that list except maybe a prime Oscar. Leonard and Hearns have decent punchers chance. Sweet Pea might survive but he wouldn't do much damage to Floyd. Trinidad would be a good fight but Floyd would get him. Robinson is too crude to have properly fought Floyd.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

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