Comments Thread For: Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: WBC Pleads For The Fight

[The Big Dunn]

How can they purchase fights that never happened. I said prime and NO Canelo wasn't prime he was green and Floyd new this. Canelo probably still hasn't reached his peak.

Think about it. Floyd new out of a 6 fight contract one of those would have to be Alvarez and That was the biggest fight that could be made besides Pacquiao and we all know Floyd doesn't want to get in the ring with Pac. So if you know your gonna have o fight this dude (Canelo) because the Robert fight was ****. Why wait for him to gain more experience. Why not get him while he's still green. Canelo being his biggest fight should have been the last in the contract but IMO Floyd new if he waited Canelo would gain valuable experience. Floyd is the ultimate chess player outside the ring.

the maidana fights.

All we know is Manny refused the fight twice. everything else you say about what one wants is speculation. Besides, in every other situation you'd say the person who refused was the one who didn't want it. Only when you log on to NSB so you give speculation more validity than actionss.

Canelo and his team did what was best for his career-fight the best guy in the world then the rest of your prime is easy because everyone else is a step down. HAd he won-he wouldn't have been too green.

[torosboxing75]

the maidana fights.

All we know is Manny refused the fight twice. everything else you say about what one wants is speculation. Besides, in every other situation you'd say the person who refused was the one who didn't want it. Only when you log on to NSB so you give speculation more validity than actionss.

Canelo and his team did what was best for his career-fight the best guy in the world then the rest of your prime is easy because everyone else is a step down. HAd he won-he wouldn't have been too green.

So then you don't know **** because Manny never refused the fight he refused Floyds bull**** demands and Floyd gladly walked away. Then when Pac says fu#@ it I'll ake your ****** demands. Floyd adds another. Please stop being a groupie and open your eyes bro.

[The Big Dunn]

So then you don't know **** because Manny never refused the fight he refused Floyds bull**** demands and Floyd gladly walked away. Then when Pac says fu#@ it I'll ake your ****** demands. Floyd adds another. Please stop being a groupie and open your eyes bro.

actually he offered at least 4 compromise cutoffs which many also refused. There is no line item veto-many refused the fight. Plain and simple. Using the word groupie doesn't change the truth.

There is a thread with a roach video stating they refused the fight on NSB. Maybe he is a Floyd groupie as well?

No real point in arguing about something you know happened but wont admit.

[thack]

I think it might just be time for Floyd to make the fight.

Showtime is going to start put heat on him, because they have to make money on this deal, and now that Canelo is going to HBO, who else makes Showtime money?

Amir Khan, but no one wants to see the Khan fight, so he might just have to fight Pacquiao to keep up the name "Money" for himself and Showtime

Please no Amir Khan, not even bothered about seeing Khan ever fight again never mind silly talk of Mayweather. People need to move away from this fool and make sure he fights a contender.
Pacman and Mayweather must be made if not soon then too late! Could be another Lewis / Bowe, Mayweather needs to step up to the plate and stop this s hit !

[torosboxing75]

actually he offered at least 4 compromise cutoffs which many also refused. There is no line item veto-many refused the fight. Plain and simple. Using the word groupie doesn't change the truth.

There is a thread with a roach video stating they refused the fight on NSB. Maybe he is a Floyd groupie as well?

No real point in arguing about something you know happened but wont admit.

Here your blind so this is for you and I already know what your response will be because you guy are supremely bias.

By Ivan G. Goldman
Manny Pacquiao casts just one vote out of 250 in the lower house of the Philippines Congress. To get things done he’s had to study his colleagues and try to determine why they say the things they do and what it is they’re really after.
Pacquiao Macau Arrival_140824_002a-2
Photo: Chris Farina/Top Rank
After four years in Congress and at least seven years as a committed politician, he’s had an intense, sustained course in figuring people out, and he’s brought this expertise to the study of his nemesis Floyd Mayweather.
In a recent interview with respected columnist Jerry Izenberg in the Star-Ledger of New Jersey, Pacquiao concluded Floyd “certainly is not afraid,” but that he’s obsessed with keeping his record of zero losses and fears that Manny could erase the zero.
Mayweather, who faces Marcos Maidana Sept. 13 in Las Vegas, has said some terribly ugly things about Pacquiao, calling him names I won’t repeat. “I think I finally understand him,” Pacquiao told Izenberg. Sometimes, he said, when “people aren’t educated, they just talk to talk. He sets a very bad example.”
Pacquiao, who dropped out of school at 14 in order to earn his way in the world, later passed his high school equivalency exam and took college courses to help him perform as a legislator. Many Filipinos believe he may one day be president. But meanwhile he’s a welterweight who will watch Maidana’s rematch with Mayweather with great interest.
Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, is once again trying to talk up a Mayweather-Pacquiao showdown for next year and may even have found a breakthrough formula – two contests. Give the loser a rematch and Mayweather’s Showtime network and Pacquiao’s HBO could each be satisfied – along with prizefighting history.
Golden Boy, which promotes Floyd’s bouts, is no longer headed by Richard Schaefer, who refused to speak to Arum. The company’s president, Oscar De La Hoya, says he’s out to break up the logjam and has already begun to walk the walk. He paved the way for Showtime’s Bernard Hopkins to fight HBO’s Sergey Kovalev November 8 in Atlantic City. That’s a fan-friendly unification match – on HBO, which wouldn’t do business with Golden Boy under Schaefer.
As for Pacquiao, he’s making the rounds trying to help Arum build publicity for a tune-up Arum and HBO are selling on pay-per-view – Pacquiao versus junior welterweight Chris Algieri November 22 in Macau.
Pacquiao doesn’t pay that much attention to the zero on Mayweather’s record because as he said in the interview, “If you don’t defend against the best, none of that means anything.”
Pacquiao saw what was in Mayweather’s heart when he was so jubilant about Juan Manuel Marquez knocking out Pacquiao in their fourth contest in December 2012. Conventional wisdom presumed the devastating loss would kill demand for a Pacquiao-Mayweather showdown.
Fighters often attend the bouts of other fighters who are likely to be their opponents, and if big money is at stake the fighters in attendance root for the guy they expect to fight. But Mayweather was so exultant in his tweets and in videos on the Internet that it was embarrassing. This was a man who was relieved that he wouldn’t have to pick up what would have been the biggest purse in history.
By that point Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, and the late Bert Sugar were just four of the many experts who said Mayweather fears getting in the ring with Pacquiao. And then Pacquiao came back, looking like his brutally effective self against Brandon Rios and in the rematch with Timothy Bradley.
Fight historians say there’s never been such an obvious big fight that didn’t get made, but that’s not completely true. Champions such as Jack Dempsey got away with pretending deserving black fighters didn’t exist so they weren’t even listed as contenders.
Meanwhile, Pacquiao hasn’t confined his study of Mayweather to watching what he does and says outside the ring. He studies his fights even closer. “I know how to fight him,” Pacquiao said. “I know that I can make him stand and fight.”
New York Times best-selling author Ivan G. Goldman’s Sick Justice: Inside the American Gulag was released in 2013 by Potomac Books. Watch for The Debtor Class: A Novel from Permanent Press in spring, 2015. More Information Here

[The Big Dunn]

Here your blind so this is for you and I already know what your response will be because you guy are supremely bias.

By Ivan G. Goldman
Manny Pacquiao casts just one vote out of 250 in the lower house of the Philippines Congress. To get things done he***8217;s had to study his colleagues and try to determine why they say the things they do and what it is they***8217;re really after.
Pacquiao Macau Arrival_140824_002a-2
Photo: Chris Farina/Top Rank
After four years in Congress and at least seven years as a committed politician, he***8217;s had an intense, sustained course in figuring people out, and he***8217;s brought this expertise to the study of his nemesis Floyd Mayweather.
In a recent interview with respected columnist Jerry Izenberg in the Star-Ledger of New Jersey, Pacquiao concluded Floyd ***8220;certainly is not afraid,***8221; but that he***8217;s obsessed with keeping his record of zero losses and fears that Manny could erase the zero.
Mayweather, who faces Marcos Maidana Sept. 13 in Las Vegas, has said some terribly ugly things about Pacquiao, calling him names I won***8217;t repeat. ***8220;I think I finally understand him,***8221; Pacquiao told Izenberg. Sometimes, he said, when ***8220;people aren***8217;t educated, they just talk to talk. He sets a very bad example.***8221;
Pacquiao, who dropped out of school at 14 in order to earn his way in the world, later passed his high school equivalency exam and took college courses to help him perform as a legislator. Many Filipinos believe he may one day be president. But meanwhile he***8217;s a welterweight who will watch Maidana***8217;s rematch with Mayweather with great interest.
Pacquiao***8217;s promoter, Bob Arum, is once again trying to talk up a Mayweather-Pacquiao showdown for next year and may even have found a breakthrough formula ***8211; two contests. Give the loser a rematch and Mayweather***8217;s Showtime network and Pacquiao***8217;s HBO could each be satisfied ***8211; along with prizefighting history.
Golden Boy, which promotes Floyd***8217;s bouts, is no longer headed by Richard Schaefer, who refused to speak to Arum. The company***8217;s president, Oscar De La Hoya, says he***8217;s out to break up the logjam and has already begun to walk the walk. He paved the way for Showtime***8217;s Bernard Hopkins to fight HBO***8217;s Sergey Kovalev November 8 in Atlantic City. That***8217;s a fan-friendly unification match ***8211; on HBO, which wouldn***8217;t do business with Golden Boy under Schaefer.
As for Pacquiao, he***8217;s making the rounds trying to help Arum build publicity for a tune-up Arum and HBO are selling on pay-per-view ***8211; Pacquiao versus junior welterweight Chris Algieri November 22 in Macau.
Pacquiao doesn***8217;t pay that much attention to the zero on Mayweather***8217;s record because as he said in the interview, ***8220;If you don***8217;t defend against the best, none of that means anything.***8221;
Pacquiao saw what was in Mayweather***8217;s heart when he was so jubilant about Juan Manuel Marquez knocking out Pacquiao in their fourth contest in December 2012. Conventional wisdom presumed the devastating loss would kill demand for a Pacquiao-Mayweather showdown.
Fighters often attend the bouts of other fighters who are likely to be their opponents, and if big money is at stake the fighters in attendance root for the guy they expect to fight. But Mayweather was so exultant in his tweets and in videos on the Internet that it was embarrassing. This was a man who was relieved that he wouldn***8217;t have to pick up what would have been the biggest purse in history.
By that point Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, Sugar Ray Leonard, and the late Bert Sugar were just four of the many experts who said Mayweather fears getting in the ring with Pacquiao. And then Pacquiao came back, looking like his brutally effective self against Brandon Rios and in the rematch with Timothy Bradley.
Fight historians say there***8217;s never been such an obvious big fight that didn***8217;t get made, but that***8217;s not completely true. Champions such as Jack Dempsey got away with pretending deserving black fighters didn***8217;t exist so they weren***8217;t even listed as contenders.
Meanwhile, Pacquiao hasn***8217;t confined his study of Mayweather to watching what he does and says outside the ring. He studies his fights even closer. ***8220;I know how to fight him,***8221; Pacquiao said. ***8220;I know that I can make him stand and fight.***8221;
New York Times best-selling author Ivan G. Goldman***8217;s Sick Justice: Inside the American Gulag was released in 2013 by Potomac Books. Watch for The Debtor Class: A Novel from Permanent Press in spring, 2015. More Information Here

the 1st highlighted piece is an opinion, not a fact.

"once again trying to talk"-you are aware this means they haven't spoken.

ODH is doing that-Floyd uses GBP-he isn't a GBP fighter.

the 4th highlighted piece are opinions, not facts.

ok, Manny thinks that.

This article doesn't change the fact Manny refused the fight twice.

[MindBat]

So then you don't know **** because Manny never refused the fight he refused Floyds bull**** demands and Floyd gladly walked away. Then when Pac says fu#@ it I'll ake your ****** demands. Floyd adds another. Please stop being a groupie and open your eyes bro.

The plain and simple, well known, fact is Manny refused to be tested and put up numerous roadblocks to support his refusal with the blessings of Bob who never wanted to risk his cash cow to begin with.

Floyd has moved on and Manny can keep begging for a fight which could've happened ages ago if he were certain he could beat Floyd and was certain he was clean on top of that.

Manny was never certain of either one, but made everyone think he was in front of the media.

[Daddy T]

flomos desperately trying to hold their ground and claim floyd isn't the one holding this up. it doesn't matter how many road blocks floyd puts up, it's never him that is ducking

[torosboxing75]

the 1st highlighted piece is an opinion, not a fact.

"once again trying to talk"-you are aware this means they haven't spoken.

ODH is doing that-Floyd uses GBP-he isn't a GBP fighter.

the 4th highlighted piece are opinions, not facts.

ok, Manny thinks that.

This article doesn't change the fact Manny refused the fight twice.

First negotiation Floyd tried to put a road block until Manny accepted then what did your boy do...he thought of another. Don't be blind SMH
Pac never said I want to fight you but you have to ...

[torosboxing75]

If you don't understand This it's because of what he says at 3:20 to 3:40.
This is what not being bias sounds like. http://********/8Go61SA5BLo