The Special Shakes point is not moot because Ariza is working with Floyd

[KevinHenry007]

Dont cry,, i know its hard defending your boy.....


You know how absurd it is to say that floyd only brought in ariza for
"pointers"
"floyd changing up stuff"
"floyd gonna do different conditioning, he gonna start swimming"
" leg stretches"

Thats what you have been saying,, All i say is that floyd brought him in for PEDS to try an regain some lost youth...

Which one seems more absurd

Your explanation seems more absurd because Ariza has a history of being a successful strength and conditioning coach with athletes that have passed random testing. He did a great job with Khan, Maidana, Chavez Jr and Pac even though Pac refused testing, he still did a good job with them.

I will say that Ariza does have a shady past with the following:

1. Pac refusing testing and abnormal amounts of energy/strength in 08/09.

2. Making Maidana sniff some schit up his nose when he was hurt by Broner.

3. Rios' failed test for a diuretic I think.

Yes, Ariza's done some shady stuff, but let him do shady stuff with Floyd before we accuse Floyd of juicing. Also, Floyd has done the same routine for almost 18 years. Yes, it works and it's effective, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with change at 37 years old. Nothing wrong with striving to be better.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Didn't Floyd say on camera that he fcuked TI's wife, then turned around and said he never said that?

Floyd is one of the biggest hypocrite alive, but that doesn't mean he's on PED's because he signed with Ariza yesterday.

So what your saying is dont believe floyd when it comes to ****ing a guys wife, catchweights, manny your next because he is a hypocrite..But do believe him when he says he is not using PEDs.... He is totally telling the truth then

[maguirre]

Froid Mayweather tested positive three times. So we have to assume peds are part of his boxing career.

[KevinHenry007]

So what your saying is dont believe floyd when it comes to ****ing a guys wife, catchweights, manny your next because he is a hypocrite..But do believe him when he says he is not using PEDs.... He is totally telling the truth then

What I'm saying is being a hypocrite doesn't make him a PED user because he signed with Ariza yesterday you ******.

But please tell me which fights Floyd used PEDs?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Your explanation seems more absurd because Ariza has a history of being a successful strength and conditioning coach with athletes that have passed random testing. He did a great job with Khan, Maidana, Chavez Jr and Pac even though Pac refused testing, he still did a good job with them.

I will say that Ariza does have a shady past with the following:

1. Pac refusing testing and abnormal amounts of energy/strength in 08/09.

2. Making Maidana sniff some schit up his nose when he was hurt by Broner.

3. Rios' failed test for a diuretic I think.

Yes, Ariza's done some shady stuff, but let him do shady stuff with Floyd before we accuse Floyd of juicing. Also, Floyd has done the same routine for almost 18 years. Yes, it works and it's effective, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with change at 37 years old. Nothing wrong with striving to be better.

Ok, so floyd is bringing in a known cheater just for conditioning and some pointers....

[Sugar Adam Ali]

What I'm saying is being a hypocrite doesn't make him a PED user because he signed with Ariza yesterday you ******.

Your right, it doesnt,, but bringing in a juice doctor does

[KevinHenry007]

Ok, so floyd is bringing in a known cheater just for conditioning and some pointers....

Yes, that's correct until proven otherwise. Like Pac's been proved otherwise.

Your right, it doesnt,, but bringing in a juice doctor does

No it doesn't.

Ariza helping Pac cheat in 08/09 doesn't mean he'll help Floyd cheat in 2015. That's the most idiotic logic if I've ever seen one.

[SplitSecond]

when did ariza become a proven cheater anyway?

if not for being in pac's camp he'd probabley be an unknown S&C doing good work behind the scenes like donaire's coach

[SplitSecond]

Who cares,, anyone that isnt biased knows that manny was juicing with ariza, then roach fired him and manny hasnt shown the same explosiveness since..

Now an aging floyd hires him for "leg stretches"

Any unbiased poster knows that floyd brought him in for the juice..

A fanboy will claim its for "leg stretches, swimming, pointers"

he hasn't shown the same explosive "since"?

man people were saying pac must be off the roids ever since mayweather started with the acccusations as he didn't stop sht after cotto

but now he's only been off since ariza left, after he got ko'd by marquez right? well his punch style isn't the same anymore, he's fighting more safety first, if you can't see this, you need to start paying closer attention

if he was on roids then he's still on roids, im shocked at his stamina, even if he isn't throwing the same punches, his legs worked alot in the bradley rematch

[Sugar Adam Ali]

What I'm saying is being a hypocrite doesn't make him a PED user because he signed with Ariza yesterday you ******.

But please tell me which fights Floyd used PEDs?

the fights that will happen over the next 2 years