Golovkin's Shift

[Butt stuff]

1. haha @ idiot trying to sound like he knows his ****. completely agree. one of those things that pisses me off. over analyzing **** lol.
2. its called overextending, i suppose i prefer this term over shifting.
3. dangerous flaw, COMPLETELY DISAGREE. there are almost no nevers and no always. u need to know when to use it. all about timing..
4. froch seated by groves, that's froch's poor "timing". he just runs around chin first with his fists behind him waiting to catapult away.

conclusion:
1 "overextending/shifting" is good if u know ur positioning/footwork/timing.
2 ppl are not taught to do this because its hard to teach a person to know when to do it and when its not safe. u simply need experience...
and beginners are told not to, because they have no ****ing experience/clue, and LOSE BALANCE by donig this.

Golovkin never really over extends, he always keeps his balance well centred, thats why he looks quite rigid but is also why he's perfectly balanced to throw power in every punch. Even when hes "shifting" he transitions perfectly between both stances never really lunging.

[nivek535]

Golovkin never really over extends, he always keeps his balance well centred, thats why he looks quite rigid but is also why he's perfectly balanced to throw power in every punch. Even when hes "shifting" he transitions perfectly between both stances never really lunging.

hence teh quotes on "overextending" implying controversial terminology

[RightJabLikeZab]

Isn't even close to a lost art and this is a repeat of a thread from a couple months ago.

[savorduhflavor]

Think kind of similar to the first knockdown in Pac-Cotto.

[SplitSecond]

hence teh quotes on "overextending" implying controversial terminology

why would you call it overextending? you can shift without falling forward or reaching too far so it's not correct to call it that, shifting fits much better

[Butt stuff]

why would you call it overextending? you can shift without falling forward or reaching too far so it's not correct to call it that, shifting fits much better

Yeah I don't get it. Shifting is moving forward/punching and shifting stance at the same time. Overextending is just that, overextending. The two are completely different things.

[Kid-Chocolate]

Nonito Donaire does it quite well

[ShoulderRoll]

This technique was and is used by the "old Soviet school"...

And this technique was invented/pioneered by the "old American school."

The Ketchel Shift was also known as the Triple Shift, by the way.

[MDPopescu]

And this technique was invented/pioneered by the "old American school."

The Ketchel Shift was also known as the Triple Shift, by the way.

It's no brainer that the technique was "invented" and polished in the U.S. between the Wars.
Who said the contrary?
The "Soviet school" only included it in it's amateur (supposed) minimalist style -- which many "casuals" would call brawl... Good examples: Lemeshev, Pirog, Golovkin, Kovaliov...

[Tony Trick-Pony]

It's no brainer that the technique was "invented" and polished in the U.S. between the Wars.
Who said the contrary?
The "Soviet school" only included it in it's amateur (supposed) minimalist style -- which many "casuals" would call brawl... Good examples: Lemeshev, Pirog, Golovkin, Kovaliov...

Oh yeah on Pirog. His knockout of Danny Jacobs(adopted by presidential candidate Rusty Jacobs) is a prime example of shifting.