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You are a troll, get that through your head. NO ONE ever calls "Herns" a bum, you did. You obviously didn't see Leonard Duran 1 and 2 or you would see Leonard landed tons of jabs on Duran. And here is where you ***ed up big time: Go read my other posts on the message board. I called Floyd an ATG fighter. Yes, go read my other posts. Obviously I don't underrate him. He is most likely one of the 10 best welterweights but he was not the best. There were guys who were better and proved it by ATG's fighting ATG's. You complain about people acting as if the great fighters were unbeatable gods and then you go on to say Floyd would be unbeaten against them which makes you a hypocrite. Under no uncertain terms would Floyd beat Leonard, Hearns, or the Duran of 1980 Montreal. He MAY have beaten Cuevas as long as he could go 12 rounds without getting hit by a guy who punched much harder than the guys who rocked Mayweather. If you want ANYONE to take you seriously, saying ****** A$$ SHT like "a 37 year old Mayweather would beat a prime Leonard" and "Herns is a bum" is NOT going to get you anything but ridicule on here!
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You don't even realize how IGNORANT you sound!!
First, LEARN to spell Hearns because it shows you DONT KNOW who "Herns" is!! This is as bad as you claiming you are a Doctor and spelling it "Docter"!!
Second, Hearns was a crippling puncher who hit WAY harder than Mosley, Judah, and Corley who rocked Mayweather. Not just "a tall guy with speed".
Third, Hearns had blinding speed and a better inside game than Floyd. Floyd would not be able to get past Hearns' jab and even if he could, Floyd is NOT an inside fighter ring center. The only inside game Floyd has is when fighters crowd him on the ropes where he could use the uppercuts and turn the opponent.
Hearns would have kept the fight ring center with a piston jab and crushing right hand and not even allow Mayweather opportunities to use the uppercut because uppercuts don't work as an outside punch.
You are not in any position to debate any of this because you cannot even spell Hearns name!!! And calling Hearns unintelligent!!! "land some Lucky Jab and knock him out"??? You don't even see how ignorant and trolling your statements are!! Dude, you are a joke!Last edited by richardt; 09-23-2014, 12:31 PM.Comment
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Negro I dont care who call him Hearns or Herns what does my spelling have to do with anything? Oh your bitter and using that to help you get somewhere? Im not no Dummofo I dont listen to the crap your biased azz says LOL
And yea Hearns is a bum compared to Floyd. Basically a tall guy with reach and a jab. Those are the only reason he would "beat" Floyd right? Surely not because he's a genius fighter compared to Floyd right? LOL
You obviously havent seen SRL Duran 1 because SRL didnt land anything from what I saw. The way Duran slips jab had SRL jabbing at nothingness the whole fight. Negro YO azz aint see the fight. I know boxing, and Im not biased for them just because they fought in the past. But guess who is? YOUR azz. Your judgment is not worth taking serious at all.
You say you call Floyd an ATG fighter, duh all of us do. But no one admits that skillwise he is the best in history. Their will never be a fighter that smooth EVER.
Their is no fighter in history that ever proved they were better than Floyd just because they beat great fighters. When those fighters fought bums they didnt do half the things Floyd did against his biggest foes.
And yea Floyd would be unbeaten against them because they all suck compared to him. I said Pryor and Pacman can give him a tough fight but look at their style and compare them to SRL. SRL is nothing like Pacman or Pryor. SRL is basically a downgraded version of Floyd who throws combinations. Everything he does, Floyd does better. And he's weakminded and lacked dedication.
I dont care about being ridiculed. I know boxing and Im not going to give past ATG's credit that they dont deserve. None of them can beat the Floyd who walked down Canelo. It will never happen. What will SRL's tall skinny azz do? Land a couple of jabs and after that Floyd knows everything about him. So then he's going to throw his flashy combinations and catch Floyd with a lucky punch and KO him before Floyd has the time to humiliate him lol
You hear this; Their is absolutely NOTHING in SRL that can trouble Floyd. NOTHING. They are the same fighter. One throws combinations and the other one is a mastermind.
And SRL lost to Duran at WW. Duran got outboxed by him in the rematch. Both fights showed what Floyd would do to throwback fighters of that caliber. If you got outboxed and QUIT by a fighter like SRL, you are in for a rude awakening against Floyd. But if you cant even land shots on Duran all because he got in your little head, Im sorry he will NEVER beat Floyd. Give up bro and stop jocking them. They are great in THEIR era, but in this era no one would pick fighters like that to deal with Floyd picking them apart for all of the simple mistakes they make.Last edited by MurkaMan; 09-23-2014, 10:54 PM.Comment
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But when did I place the Floyd who fought Mosley in a fantasy fight with Hearns? LOL You tried this trick once before. I placed the 150lbs Floyd who walked down Canelo in their with Hearns. Just because you can punch fool you need skills to go along with it.
To me Hearns is not nearly as fast or instinctive as Floyd. The reaction time difference between them would seem as if Hearns is fighting a hologram. It would look like all of Floyd's fights. Nothing different would happen except for what is supposed to happen lol
Hearns had this crippling jab and right hand right? Where was it at when he got beat by SRL? A lesser fighter than Floyd? Hearns, Duran, SRL...All these fighters beating eachother, yet no one has beat Floyd Mayweather lol
You say Im a joke right? Im not, the truth is you are BIASED for past ATG's and I am not. So when I get on here and tell the truth about these guys your going to trick yourself into being flabbergasted. Bro I hold no punches. Their was NEVER a fighter like Floyd until Floyd came along. What are you going to tell me Willie Pep and Pernell? Floyd aint no flashy bob-n-weave defensive fighter.
He is a fullblown tactician that has the defensive abilities of a defensive wizard. SRL, Hearns, Duran, Robinson COMBINED would never be able to show that level of in-ring perfection. EVER.
Now I will copy and past the things you ignored;
You say Im a troll yet your taking my typo of placing an S behind the word fight, and pretending like I dont know how many fights he had with Sr. Your the troll.
Your also pretending to get everything I say confused. You keep talking about SRL having ATG's on his resume when it really doesnt matter. Because as I have said, if he fought Floyd's foes he would not have a plus minus of 30. No fighter in history would. You ignored that part.
You also pretended like I said SRL doesnt throw any combinations. You know for a fact that I said ALL he can do is throw combinations. He doesnt move his head, although he is versitile and can change his style, he cant make adjustments as shown in the first Duran fight in which he couldnt even land a jab on Duran LOL.
I made a comment about how 100% of boxing fans are biased against Floyd and underrate him out of bitterness. And 100% of boxing fans are biased for past ATG's. You ignored this here.Comment
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BRAINLESS STATEMENTS MADE BY MURKAMAN:
"I placed the 150lbs Floyd who walked down Canelo in their with Hearns. Just because you can punch fool you need skills to go along with it."
Hearns had skills you DUMBA$$!!
"To me Hearns would look like all of Floyd's fights. Nothing different would happen except for what is supposed to happen lol"
Fighting an ATG Hearns would be like all Floyd's fights????!! Man you are in full blown ****** mode! You didn't even know who Hearns was or how to spell his name.
"Hearns had this crippling jab and right hand right? Where was it at when he got beat by SRL? A lesser fighter than Floyd? Hearns, Duran, SRL...All these fighters beating eachother, yet no one has beat Floyd Mayweather lol"
That is PURE ******ed crap!!! These are ATG's fighting ATG's!!!
"So when I get on here and tell the truth about these guys your going to trick yourself into being flabbergasted."
The truth??!! Don't flatter yourself, you have nothing but a lame opinion!
"He is a fullblown tactician that has the defensive abilities of a defensive wizard. SRL, Hearns, Duran, Robinson COMBINED would never be able to show that level of in-ring perfection. EVER."
It doesn't get more ******ed than this!!! Robinson??!!!! Dude, you will not find one person on the planet who agrees with your warped love affair for Floyd!
"You keep talking about SRL having ATG's on his resume when it really doesnt matter"
Fighting ATG's doesn't matter???!!!!!! You cannot be that ******!!
Now to torch you! THE AVERAGE AGE ON THESE BOARDS IS 30-35 WHICH MEANS MOST HAVE SEEN FLOYD LIVE, NOT THE EARLIER ERAS!!!!!! AND MOST STILL PICK THEM OVER YOUR SWEETHEART FLOYD! I'll be putting up a poll soon and you can stew in your own juices. You called Hearns a BUM! You are an idiot or a troll, JUST like the other poster said!Last edited by richardt; 09-24-2014, 12:31 PM.Comment
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So Hearns had the defensive, offensive, IQ, versitility of Floyd? No he did not. Thats why people only talk about his reach and jab when talking about what he can do to Floyd. Which is not much because he makes too many mistakes.
Then you keep pretending like you think that I dont know who Hearns is. That dumshiat doesnt work on me! Your only saying that because you cant really tell me how he is better than Floyd. You seem frustrated and bitter over the fact that I refuse to give him a victory over Floyd. For what? Why would I? If he's not the better fighter, then it is what it is.
My opinion is not lame. Its just that I refuse to babysit past ATGs like you do. I will be the first to tell you, if you had fighters identical to them in this era no one would make them a favorite over Floyd. The skillset difference is too blatant.
Robinson was a HORRIBLE fighter compared to Floyd. He tried to move on his feet but he looked heavyfooted and he tries to jab but didnt seem too fast. Had no defense. Lets not talk about Floyd. Lets talk about Pac. I think he would beat the snot out of Robinson for the mistakes he makes. But we arent going to be honest about who would be an EASY favorite. We're just going to give the victory to Robinson just because, well...he's Robinson. Im not playing that shiat. I come here to talk boxing not pick and choose who Im going to be biased for and lie on. Robinson used to throw those wild combinations from his hips and got beat down by Jake Lomatta lol
And I love the way you cherrypick what you want to talk about and crop my comments. I didnt say having atgs' on your resume didnt matter. I said it didnt matter because if he fought Floyd's foes he would not have a plus minus of 30(Would he? LOL). Quit being slick you weak chump lol
You say you will torch me. That will never happen because you cant respond to half of the things I say you just troll when someone outclasses your dumbazz lol
You keep talking about what other people will or will not say. I dont know how many times I have to tell you this but IDGAF about that crap lol I said this a million times. They are all biased for past ATG's and honestly I expect all of them to "find a way" to have Floyd losing. Even though he's ten times better than all of them combined.
Go and put up your poll I dont care about that crap! LOL Boy go back and respond to the things you ignored. Stop picking and choosing what to respond to and what to ignore. Im way smarter than your dumbazz and I dont have to be biased in order to debate with you.
All I did was be honest about what each fighter is capable of and I will say this again. Their was NEVER a Floyd Mayweather until he came along. It will never ever happen in boxing again. I could mimick Robinson and SRL to a Tee. Not saying I could beat their opponents but I see how they did what they did.
I could never mimick Floyd. He just does way too much and is the sharpest fighter in the history of professional pugilism.
And btw what did Arum say about Floyd? He said he is the best fighter in HISTORY SKILLWISE. He said this before Floyd even beat his REAL opponents. Im just saying the same thing Arum is saying. But Floyd has made enemies since then so even tho he fought bigger and stronger guys, and his accuracy went up at the higher weights, no one will admit the truth. I dont care if he's an azz or not, Im just here to talk boxing. That is all.Comment
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From Murkaman:
So Hearns had the defensive, offensive, IQ, versitility of Floyd? No he did not. Thats why people only talk about his reach and jab when talking about what he can do to Floyd. Which is not much because he makes too many mistakes.
YOU CALLED HEARNS A BUM AND UNINTELLIGENT AND YOU EXPECT ANYONE TO RESPECT THAT CRAP YOU SPEW??!!!
Then you keep pretending like you think that I dont know who Hearns is. That dumshiat doesnt work on me! Your only saying that because you cant really tell me how he is better than Floyd. You seem frustrated and bitter over the fact that I refuse to give him a victory over Floyd. For what? Why would I? If he's not the better fighter, then it is what it is.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHO HEARNS IS OR I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO HOLD YOUR HAND AND TEACH YOU HOW TO SPELL!!
My opinion is not lame. Its just that I refuse to babysit past ATGs like you do. I will be the first to tell you, if you had fighters identical to them in this era no one would make them a favorite over Floyd. The skillset difference is too blatant.
YOU DON'T EVEN SEE HOW ****** YOU SOUND SAYING NO ONE WOULD EVER BE FAVORED OVER HIM!
Robinson was a HORRIBLE fighter compared to Floyd. He tried to move on his feet but he looked heavyfooted and he tries to jab but didnt seem too fast. Had no defense. Lets not talk about Floyd. Lets talk about Pac. I think he would beat the snot out of Robinson for the mistakes he makes. But we arent going to be honest about who would be an EASY favorite. We're just going to give the victory to Robinson just because, well...he's Robinson. Im not playing that shiat. I come here to talk boxing not pick and choose who Im going to be biased for and lie on. Robinson used to throw those wild combinations from his hips and got beat down by Jake Lomatta lol
ROBINSON WAS A HORRIBLE FIGHTER COMPARED TO FLOYD???? GET OFF THE DRUGS!!
You say you will torch me. That will never happen because you cant respond to half of the things I say you just troll when someone outclasses your dumbazz lol
OUTCLASS??? YOU ARE THE ONLY POSTER DUMB ENOUGH TO CALL HEARNS A BUM AND ROBINSON A HORRIBLE FIGHTER COMPARED TO FLOYD!!!
You keep talking about what other people will or will not say. I dont know how many times I have to tell you this but IDGAF about that crap lol I said this a million times. They are all biased for past ATG's and honestly I expect all of them to "find a way" to have Floyd losing. Even though he's ten times better than all of them combined.
THEY ARE NOT BIASED, MANY FLOYD FANS PICK THOSE GUYS TO BEAT FLOYD YOU DUMBASS!!Last edited by richardt; 09-24-2014, 09:22 PM.Comment
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Floyd is so ****ing delusional, prime vs prime, SRL would absolutely DESTROY Fraud jr and embarass him 10x worse than Maidana did Broner. SRL's era was far more burtal and REAL than todays fake ass paper champ prima donna exhibition bull****. The coward would never ever say that to a prime SRL.Comment
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You dont respect what I say because your biased for them. To you this is all "shocking" that someone doesnt see them as anything special compared to Floyd. Skillwise they arent. They cant even do a fraction of what he does in the ring.
I dont sound ****** saying no one would be favored over him. They wouldnt and thats a fact. Floyd told SRL to his face that he would be basic in this era and that he would destroy him easily. He hurt SRL's fweelings and made him feel stoopid lol
And yes Robinson was a horrible fighter compared to Floyd he ****** and looked almost clumsey. But I compared him to Pacman and said Pac would punish him for being slowhanded and defense-lacking. And just because you post my comment before you reply, doesnt mean that you actually responded to the entire comment. You still only responded to one line lol. I talked about what he did IN the ring you ignore everything I say. Cherrypicker lol
I dont care about what Floyd fans say. Im not even a Floyd fan like that dummy lol. I said 100% of boxing fans are biased for past ATG's. All of them. All Im basically doing is saying what I think about their skillset and Im not lying for them. For what? You have allot to respond to.
You completely ignored what I said about Arum. Im basically agreeing with what he said before Floyd even reached his peek. Floyd got way better since fighting Judah. Imagine what Arum was thinking when Floyd fought Canelo and JMM. He may have said negative things in the press, but I bet he felt the same way YOU felt. That what he did in the ring, would NEVER happen again. Get over it and stop typing in all caps.Comment
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