When a fighter slows down, gets hit more and has to throw more

[Larry the boss]

That's exactly what happened to Marquez once he moved up from Featherweight. He was in his mid 30's and had lost considerable reflexes and movement making him a more offensive minded fighter.

Yep Marquez is another example..gets hit more but can take it and give it right back

[Larry the boss]

Larry has such a gift for making threads all about Floyd without mentioning his name. One day I hope to be at such a level.

Cotto was never fast or had great reflexes...but he had the fundamentals and that along with his toughness allowed him to reach that next level...he has skills mixed with toughness that can not be taught..that is what makes elite fighters

[jas]

Hopkins has been much more active offensive lately

Did you see his last fight?

[Larry the boss]

Did you see his last fight?

I watch all Hopkins fights man, he was letting his hands go and even said after the fight " I AM A 15 ROUND FIGHTER"....he is more offensive and even got a knockdown

[jas]

I watch all Hopkins fights man, he was letting his hands go and even said after the fight " I AM A 15 ROUND FIGHTER"....he is more offensive and even got a knockdown

I do too, he threw 383 punches

Compare that to his previous fights a few year ago. He threw more against tarver, pavlik, calzaghe.

[El Angel]

Cotto was never fast or had great reflexes...but he had the fundamentals and that along with his toughness allowed him to reach that next level...he has skills mixed with toughness that can not be taught..that is what makes elite fighters

Agreed. He's never been the most physically gifted fighter, although I think his hand speed and reflexes are a tad underrated by most. His toughness, versatility, and his underrated boxing brain are what made him great.

Floyd has all of that, plus the once in a generation athletic ability and skill.

[Larry the boss]

I do too, he threw 383 punches

Compare that to his previous fights a few year ago. He threw more against tarver, pavlik, calzaghe.

Look at the names you listed...ELITE FIGHTERS...and he is 49 now and still throwing combos

[Larry the boss]

Agreed. He's never been the most physically gifted fighter, although I think his hand speed and reflexes are a tad underrated by most. His toughness, versatility, and his underrated boxing brain are what made him great.

Floyd has all of that, plus the once in a generation athletic ability and skill.

I guess what i am saying is a lot of boxing can be taught..but only a select few can can skill, talent and that " extra" Where they can take more then the average while remaining calm, focused and on top of their game/// It is truly amazing to witness

[Larry the boss]

Anyone can look good when they are hitting the other man..but you never know how great a fighter is until you see him hurt,bleeding and tired..thats when you see his inner soul and get to witness a true champion

[jas]

Look at the names you listed...ELITE FIGHTERS...and he is 49 now and still throwing combos

I don't get your point...

He threw 497 punches vs Enrique ornelas