What is your current top ten P4P?

[-PBP-]

That's a good list but why do you have Chocolito over Pacquiao?

Pac dropped on my list after that KO loss. You can argue that the Bradley W should push him back higher but I thought he beat Bradley the first time so I didn't put much into it.

[jas]

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My P4P List:

1. Hopkins
2. Pacquaio
3. Rigondeaux
4. GGG
5. R. Gonzalez
6. Thurman
7. Kovalev
8. Bradley
9. Klitschko
10. Mayweather

[Dinamita 03]

Mayweather
Ward (2 months to go before 1 year of inactivity)
Rigondeaux
Chocolito
Pacquiao
Bradley
Marquez
Wlad
Froch
Estrada

This is my list. Order is interchangeable for the most part.

[Loque-san]

1. Floyd
2. Ward
3. Rigondeaux
4. Gonzalez
5. Marquez
6. Pacquiao
7. Bradley
8. Wlad
9. Golovkin
10. Danny

[Lords]

Post your current top ten P4P list.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Guillermo Rigondeaux
3. Roman Gonzalez
4. Wladimir Klitschko
5. Floyd Mayweather Jr
6. Juan Manuel Marquez
7. Gennady Golovkin
8. Andre Ward
9. Tim Bradley
10. Carl Froch

(honorable mention for future consideration: Sergey Kovalev, Bernard Hopkins, Kell Brook, Terence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez, Jhonny Gonzalez, Takashi Uchiyama, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia, Donnie Nietes and Juan Francisco Estrada)

* Pacquaio looked very good in his last fight, dominating a top 10 P4P opponent
* Roman Gonzalez is underrated and in his prime
* Andre Ward hasn't fought in nearly a year and has no good wins in a long time
* Rigondeaux outboxes his opponents without a home ref and extra padding in his opponents' gloves
* Floyd has a MD and a mediocre UD over a five-loss limited fringe contender. Floyd made the opponent wear gloves with extra padding, used an extra big ring so he could run and had a home ref to protect him - if Floyd is P4P #1, then Sven Ottke is the GOAT.

GGG #7? Cotto moving up to win the middle weight title isn't even an honorable mention? Manny #1, Floyd not even top 3? one of the shltiest lists I've seen.

[The Hammer]

GGG #7? Cotto moving up to win the middle weight title isn't even an honorable mention? Manny #1, Floyd not even top 3? one of the shltiest lists I've seen.

Cotto is there.

But he needs to man up and fight Golovkin, or he doesn't deserve the middleweight Ring belt.

[Butt stuff]

I understand Wlad's accomplishments are great and will be better realised in the years after he retires- but when it comes to Pound 4 Pound, its hard to rank him as there are no actual boxers with skills at the same size as him and thats sort of what P4P is all about.

I'm not saying there are no decent heavyweights that he's fought, but imagine if Povetkin had the same size, that fight could have been much much different.

[The Hammer]

Floyd doesn't deserve the #1 P4P rating.


Floyd struggled against a 5 loss fringe contender, needed a shady home ref's protection, demanded that the opponent wear gloves with extra padding, and demanded that the ring be extra large. Maidana was fighting away from his home country in Floyd's home town of Las Vegas.

Pac never demands his opponents wear gloves with extra padding and never has a shady ref to protect him. In his last fight, he travelled across the ocean and dominated a top 10 P4P opponent in that fighter's HOME COUNTRY.

[The Hammer]

I understand Wlad's accomplishments are great and will be better realised in the years after he retires- but when it comes to Pound 4 Pound, its hard to rank him as there are no actual boxers with skills at the same size as him and thats sort of what P4P is all about.

I'm not saying there are no decent heavyweights that he's fought, but imagine if Povetkin had the same size, that fight could have been much much different.

Wilder, Fury, Wach, and many other HWs are bigger than Wladimir.

Lennox was about the same size.

[Butt stuff]

Wilder, Fury, Wach, and many other HWs are bigger than Wladimir.

Lennox was about the same size.

If Wlad beat Lennox, that would be a GREAT win but unfortunately he hasn't.

Wach is terrible. Wlad hasn't fought Fury or Wilder yet and to be honest neither's boxing skills are fantastic, they've (including Wach) just got big size advantages that they use over most of their part-time boxer opponents.

Beating Wach or Fury or Wilder at this stage isn't the same as Ward beating Froch.