Why Kell Brook deserves more respect than Floyd Mayweather

[jas]

by the way , someone counted the number of clinches in the fight and brook clinched something like 120 times and porter 110............so both did their fair share of holding not just brook

and it was clinching, not illegal holding....illegal holding is where you stop your opponent from throwing by grabbing him around the elbows which is what mayweather did

[The Hammer]

-Why would anyone want to fight Floyd outside of the US where the both fighters would get paid the most?

All the best boxers fought outside their home countries.

Floyd-Maidana would have filled a 40,000 capacity stadium in Argentina.

Floyd-Hatton would have filled a football stadium in England.

Floyd-Marquez would have filled a big stadium in Mexico City.

Fighting outside the US would not adversely affect PPV revenue. Muhammed Ali fought in the Philippines, Europe and Africa.

[-Kev-]

- When Kell Brook won the title from Shawn Porter, he didn't have a crooked ref protecting him and allowing him to clamp his opponent's arm

- Brook didn't demand Porter wear gloves with extra padding

- Brook was fighting IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY in his opponent's home country, something Floyd has NEVER had the courage to do

- Brook never pretended to be bitten when he wanted a rest or time to recover

- Brook never pretended to be pushed down to get the ref to deduct a point

- Brook doesn't beat up women (as far as I know)

- Kenny Bayless is not crooked.

- Brook can't demand Porter wear anything. He was neither the B side, champion or big draw.

- He doesn't have to. He's the ports top draw. You fight him where he wants to fight.

- Floyd Mayweather was bitten. As far the severity of the bite goes, I thought Floyd exaggerated it. You can't possibly injure someone's finger through a glove with padding, handwraps and while having a mouthpiece, with a bite unless you have the bite force of a Crocodile, which is not humanly possible. Floyd sold the bite, but Maidana clearly did chomp down on Floyd's gloves.

- Floyd was grabbed and leaned on by Maidana, forcing him to lose his balance and with the weight of his body, fall down to the ground.

- Right, as far as you know. But you don't know if he has or ever will. That is not boxing related.

[Pigeons]

All the best boxers fought outside their home countries.

Floyd-Maidana would have filled a 40,000 capacity stadium in Argentina.

Floyd-Hatton would have filled a football stadium in England.

Floyd-Marquez would have filled a big stadium in Mexico City.

Fighting outside the US would not adversely affect PPV revenue. Muhammed Ali fought in the Philippines, Europe and Africa.

Filling a stadium means very little. How much revenue are you receiving from those seats? Froch-Groves II put 80K in a stadium and only did $9M in live gate revenue (and keep in mind England is a wealthy country unlike Argentina and Mexico). Mayweather-Maidana I put 16K in an arena and did $15M in live gate revenue.

That's 64K less in attendance and $6M more in revenue. It doesn't take much of an education to realize that every fighter comes to America to make it big because all the money is in this country.

In regards to your ******ed PPV argument, Pac-Rios in Macau did under 500K PPV buys. Pac hasn't sniffed numbers that bad since before he fought DLH.

[The Hammer]

In regards to your ******ed PPV argument, Pac-Rios in Macau did under 500K PPV buys. Pac hasn't sniffed numbers that bad since before he fought DLH.

Pac-Rios was not a compelling matchup, it was just a warm-up for Manny coming off a KO loss and Rios is pretty much just a tough journeyman.

Many PPV events in countries other than the USA have actually done very well.

Bona-fide great fighters like Ali and Tyson were never afraid to leave the USA.

[DoktorSleepless]

Arum himself said those Ali fights had half the buys they would have in the US. Government had to heavily subsidize those fights to make up for it, which is crooked as hell.

[LacedUp]

Pac-Rios was not a compelling matchup, it was just a warm-up for Manny coming off a KO loss and Rios is pretty much just a tough journeyman.

Many PPV events in countries other than the USA have actually done very well.

Bona-fide great fighters like Ali and Tyson were never afraid to leave the USA.

A former world champion with 1 loss is 'pretty much just a tough journeyman'?

I think that's tough.

With regards to the rest, I think Mayweather grew up in an era whereby the fighters he fought made their primary living in America. I don't really see why they would stage fights outside of America - even with Maidana who made his name in America too.

However, I am a big supporter of world champions fighting outside their comfort zone and defend all over the world, but I think it's tough to ask someone to take a massive pay cut to do so.

And before we judge Kell Brook, let's see how he behaves now he's champion. Even though I would never expect something like gloves to be an issue, but we don't really know yet.

[The Hammer]

Shawn Porter is a better win than Marcos Maidana.

Porter was undefeated and he's never been knocked down.

Maidana is shopworn and has lost to ordinary boxers like Kotelnik and Alexander.

[RightJabLikeZab]

Brook clinched as much as Floyd did and I enjoyed both of their performances. Excellent boxing on display against crude fighters.

[Trebuh]

Mayweather resume: Maidana,Canelo,Cotto,Mosley,Marquez,Hatton,De La Hoya,Baldomir,Judah,Gatti,Castillo,Chavez,Corrales ,Hernandez
Brook resume: Porter
Yep Brook deserves more respect...