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  • megadeth
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    #81
    Originally posted by bigjavi973


    NSAC approved a red punchers gloves. Floyd said **** no. No fight. Mind you, the same red punchers gloves his own tmt fighters used that same night.

    If they were NSAC approved gloves then Floyd should accept the gloves. PERIOD! Now, If Maidana accepted money for wearing different gloves, then the controversy end right there. I certainly don't think it deserves 1000 threads and people calling Floyd a coward because of it...NO! I didn't hear those comments when Pac was gonna walk away from ODH and Hatton over money. Did you?

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    • bigjavi973
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      #82
      Originally posted by megadeth
      No, he did not. They made a contract with the limit of 147. Every lb over 144 was 300k. Again 147 was the limit, so NO, that is not paying for being overweight.
      You are completely wrong.

      Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.


      "LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

      The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

      Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

      At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

      However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

      But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

      Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

      According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

      However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

      Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

      Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

      "We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

      Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

      Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer."

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #83
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        Not at all. The 1st assumptions for the whole ped issue came from mayweather, his camp and you floydiots. Floyd accused ariza of supplying his fighters with peds and for someone that has said that he wants to clean up the sport, should not even associate themselves with someone they trashed so bad in the first place. "Hes only helping me stretch", claims floyd. Floydboys go on the all out defense "you heard what floyd said, hes helping him strectch", as if floyd has never lied before. His word is gold. How about you when you answer a question with another question??? huh?

        (Floyd)(Floydboys)
        I didn't say anything like that, As usual you take what one poster said (more likely your warped interpretation of what one poster posted) and try to apply it to all Floyd fans, another tired NSB tactic.

        As Dazed has been telling you for a few days, at least make sure you have the story correct.

        As for ariza-floyd is working with Ariza and also taking OST for PED. There is only one ARiza client/fighter that worked with Ariza that didn't take OST for PED. You already know.

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        • bigjavi973
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          #84
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Are the two situations similar?
          No they are not. Floyd was accusing pacquiao of ped usage. Has pacquiao accused floyd of peds? NO!

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          • IMDAZED
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            #85
            Originally posted by bigjavi973
            No they are not. Floyd was accusing pacquiao of ped usage. Has pacquiao accused floyd of peds? NO!
            No that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to Ariza being Manny's long-time coach and being someone who comes to another fighter's camp two weeks prior to a fight and isn't on the payroll. Are those two things similar?

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            • megadeth
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              #86
              Originally posted by bigjavi973
              Thats cuz floyd has no power in his brittle hands. The speed and reflexes he has kept.

              Im my opinion he does not. Which makes the whole floyd-pacquiao ped issue a complete sham for the fight not going around the first time when it was available.
              Oh please, that's just nonesense! You are just trying to find a reason to blame Floyd for the first negotiation falling through, when Pac's trainer admits the opposite. Floyd could work with Ariza a whole camp and that doesn't mean that he doesn't think he was giving stuff to Pac. It also doesn't mean that he would be obligated to use something. You have already called Floyd a liar and a hypocrite, so why couldn't that be the case working with Ariza?

              Funny how you will call Floyd asking for PED testing a complete sham, but you don"t have any problems that Pac & Team CONTINUALLY LIED about the reasons they couldn't take testing all the way to the fight....which has been proven when he started testing with Rios. Somehow Floyd read the future and knew Pac would decline testing, yet now we know the reasons he was declining were lies? Is this your logic?

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                #87
                Originally posted by megadeth
                If they were NSAC approved gloves then Floyd should accept the gloves. PERIOD! Now, If Maidana accepted money for wearing different gloves, then the controversy end right there. I certainly don't think it deserves 1000 threads and people calling Floyd a coward because of it...NO! I didn't hear those comments when Pac was gonna walk away from ODH and Hatton over money. Did you?
                According to reports, he never paid him a penny. Pacquiao was rated number 1 p4p in his fight against ODH. Money wasn't really an issue there. The real issue was hatton and pacquiao. Hatton wanted 50/50, pacquiao wanted 60/40. He basically pulled a mayweather. People had problems with that, but not when mayweather does it.

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                • megadeth
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  You are completely wrong.

                  Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.


                  "LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

                  The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

                  Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

                  At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

                  However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

                  But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

                  Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

                  According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

                  However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.


                  Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

                  Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

                  "We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

                  Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

                  Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer."

                  This says everything I was saying. Where am I "completely wrong"? It was a welterweight bout with weight penalties for anything over 144.

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #89
                    Still waiting on you to "Knock down"Pacquiao...

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                    • megadeth
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      According to reports, he never paid him a penny. Pacquiao was rated number 1 p4p in his fight against ODH. Money wasn't really an issue there. The real issue was hatton and pacquiao. Hatton wanted 50/50, pacquiao wanted 60/40. He basically pulled a mayweather. People had problems with that, but not when mayweather does it.
                      Yeah? So there were an abundance of threads dedicated to Pac doing this? Were you one of those people in those threads tearing Pac down? Somehow I doubt it!

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