James toney that beat Holyfield vs David haye

[bboy80]

Id have to say Haye as well. Hits to hard and to fast for Toney.

[KevinHenry007]

David Haye. Holyfield was done

[SN!PER]

Haye would probably still beat the current heavyweights including Stiverne.

If the Klitschkos never existed, Haye would have the belts right now.

[Eastcoast]

Toney's chin is too strong and defense too tight, he would've timed Haye and gave him flash backs to Carl Thomas.

[Ham Porter]

Toney was juiced to the grills for that fight and wasn't shot yet, so I wouldn't rule out him winning. He also wasn't the morbidly obese, immobile (he suffered a serious achilles tendon rupture not long after the Holyfield fight) sack of **** he became after.


Haye outclasses/beats the crap out of any version after that, though.

[Elroy1]

Haye would probably still beat the current heavyweights including Stiverne.

If the Klitschkos never existed, Haye would have the belts right now.

I would agree somewhat.

I'm not sure if Haye could beat Stiverne or his challengers (Klitschko's aside).

But I would have not much hesitation putting Haye forward as HW champion sans any Klitchko involvement.

He's among the best CW champions there ever was... And one of the slickest, probably the fastest HW's of all time and with great power too.

Only real weakness was really chin.

[yoz]

Interesting match up, and one Haye would definitely try to avoid!

I think Toney wears Haye down,and scores a late stoppage. Let's not forget, Haye has stamina issues.

[LacedUp]

lol Haye obviously.

[LacedUp]

tough to call. holyfield was shot. haye doesn't look nearly as good when he gets guys that can defend and take a shot which toney was great at. haye had the big edge in handspeed and power tho and would maybe pot shot his way to a close decision win imo. no way hes starching toney tho. that guy was one of the toughest sob's ever in the sport

Not that I necessarily disagree, but I have to ask: Like who?

Haye never fought anyone with great defensive skills, other than Wlad - and with all due respect to James Toney, he's no Wlad at heavyweight.

So what do you base it on? Holyfield was done then, and Toney was very inactive when he fought. He didn't throw that many punches and certainly not hurtful ones at heavyweight.

I honestly can't see any other outcome than Haye absolutely smashing Toney.

[LacedUp]

Interesting match up, and one Haye would definitely try to avoid!

I think Toney wears Haye down,and scores a late stoppage. Let's not forget, Haye has stamina issues.

A guy goes 12 with Wlad, but get's stopped by Toney? Honestly. No.