Comments Thread For: Ortiz: Matthysse is Not The Same After Danny Garcia

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  • SeekDaGreat
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    #71
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    But the truth is, that you're regurgitating the exact same logic used the 1st time. It didn't work then, so why would it work now?? It's also not a (fact). You simply can't use big words for a disproven concept.
    There's nothing "big" about the words "fact" and "scenario." "You simply can't discredit it as speculation" when Garcia is figjting Rod Salka and aspiring to fight Lamont PEDerson, who's a glorified bum."

    Who's Garcia's mando again? #1 challenger?

    Oh well, there's always Salka 2.

    That ether.

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    • Dean_Razorback
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      #72
      i don't think danny will fight postol, not saying he will ducked him (IMO danny beats postol rather easy) but because he is moving up to WW, he looks really big and drained in the weigh ins

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      • Bushbaby
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        #73
        Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
        There's nothing "big" about the words "fact" and "scenario." "You simply can't discredit it as speculation" when Garcia is figjting Rod Salka and aspiring to fight Lamont PEDerson, who's a glorified bum."

        Who's Garcia's mando again? #1 challenger?

        Oh well, there's always Salka 2.

        That ether.
        Sure you can. Same failed logic as before. Danny is scared to death, shook, gonna get his a$$ destroyed in 4 rounds or less. But what actually happened, was that Danny fought Lucas, broke his face and earned a hard fought W. Those are the facts, the only facts worth a damn. So how can you (still) say that Danny is still scared of someone he already beat and beat clearly??

        I'm a fan of both guys, but it is what is is. Danny struggled against Herrera. Danny had no business in the ring with Salka. Those are also facts. But that does not erase the fact that he holds a clear win over a fighter you and Lucas fanboys said he was terrified of (before) he clearly beat him. And are no using the same flawed logic (after) he already clearly beat him.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
          Actually there are several inconvenient facts that destroy your false assertion. First, Gift's fathers own testimony of Luc being Gifts toughest fight. Blowing out his ear drum, fracturing several of his ribs, and making him urinate blood for week(s). Second, Gift taking a "gimme" fight against his Papi, Mauricio Herrera. He was schooled by a double jab and lost to the majority of boxing journalists and over thousands of boxing fans. Third, he makes the cherry pick of the century by choosing Raul Salazar, the 86th ranked lightweight. He fights this fecal matter 2 weight classes above his own. Not even at his own weight class. Luc went on to fight the 10th ranked American jr welterweight John Molina in fight of the year candidate. He was dropped twice but came back to drop Molina thrice to win by stoppage. So, Gift decision of the year and cherry pick of the century verses fight of the year. Matthysse' stock is higher than Gift's stock now.
          looks like someone is still butthurt that the machine got his ass whooped.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...and-highlights

            Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


            Saturday night, at the Ruben Rodriguez Coliseum in Bayamon, Puerto Rico, unified jr. welterweight champion Danny Garcia successfully defended his


            I can post more if you want. Floydhype, boxingscene and bleacher in unison though. Your a blinded SwagPhag and reality hurts.
            Power punches over jabs any day of the week. An seriously, bleacher report? They have some of the worst writers on the planet.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
              Well we will see after tomorrow night. But Luc's stock is higher than Gifts now, and thats a good thing for boxing fans. You see most boxers have balls. Even Mayweather has balls. People thought Maidana beat him so he is rematching him. Mor people thought Herrera beat Gift than Maidana beat May but Gift has ducked and dodged his Papi.
              Who exactly was mayweather gonna fight??? Thurman is his mando. Thats about it. Oh and in the herrera fight, power punches over jabs all day any day (its not a jabbing contest, herrera actually threw more and landed more power punches in his fight with provodnikov)

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                #77
                Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
                Prove it. Seriously, prove it. The majority on here thought May beat Maidana. The vast majority thought Herrera beat Gift.
                The majority of the poeple here who thought floyd won was his fanboys. I had it a draw. Anything higher than a 116 score for mayweather is laughable.

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                • bigjavi973
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Johnny Rubber
                  A bit of a sweeping statement mate. Being a champ doesn't mean ***** these days. Danny maybe lineal, but He has only fought 1 undefeated fighter in his whole pro career. Props for getting to the top, but beltholders are just chess pieces moved around to protect the promoters stock.
                  Really? He beat all the top guys at 140. On top of that, he was the underdog in mostly every fight, INCLUDING the matthysse fight. Everyone pretty much thought that the machine was gonna just walk all over him, but danny got a kd and won that fight. Stop hatin!

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                  • elgranluchadore
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                    #79
                    ortiz doesnt have the style to beat mathysse, he struggled with reyes sanchez for god's sake
                    we will see how his chin holds up, most likely he will fold in around 5 but it should be an entertaining demolition

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                    • DondiNeverLeft
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                      Being scared and being forced into an uncomfortable situation are two different things. Being the pea brain you are you scurried into the most vain, thoughtless area your brain could relate with. Which is expected.
                      " forced to fight"... Okay then.

                      If " forced to fight " existed, there would be no ducking, no cherry picking, and no talk about Floyd and Pac not happening because it would have happened...." Forcefully".

                      Forced to fight...

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