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  • #11
    Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
    Agreed.Chin is mostly about genetics,it want be long before Lucas goes the way of Walter.....it's easuy to walk through the punches of Ajose or Alexander.
    yeah, genetic, just like vitali has a crystal chin like his brother wlad

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
      yeah, genetic, just like vitali has a crystal chin like his brother wlad
      Wlad had stamina problems and since he has corrected them he hasn't been knocked out hence the mostly.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Inkanyamba View Post
        I don't know what that means but sure. I never said Ortiz will win, but Lucas' defense is vastly overrated and he will get clipped.
        Ortiz has cought hell from several nobodies, and got away with some shakey decisions. He hasn't shown anything to warrent this much of a jump in talent. Massa doesn't box or punch as good as Danny. Tough fight for him.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
          Agreed.Chin is mostly about genetics,it want be long before Lucas goes the way of Walter.....it's easuy to walk through the punches of Ajose or Alexander.
          They are brothers but they are so different phisically. Walter was so tall that ended fighting as a super welter and his fighting stance was different. Lucas jaw is allways tuck in his chest and his hand are always up. He is a way more deffensive fighter than his brother. That genetic argument is BS just compare Canelo with his brother or any graet fighter with his sons...

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          • #15
            Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
            Wlad had stamina problems and since he has corrected them he hasn't been knocked out hence the mostly.
            yeah, stamina was the reason he lost to sanders, he gassed out after a round...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Nicolino View Post
              They are brothers but they are so different phisically. Walter was so tall that ended fighting as a super welter and his fighting stance was different. Lucas jaw is allways tuck in his chest and his hand are always up. He is a way more deffensive fighter than his brother. That genetic argument is BS just compare Canelo with his brother or any graet fighter with his sons...
              Lucas will soon be fighting at welter and often comes to the ring weighing close to 160.....the only difference is that his brother fought Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron two very hard punchers.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
                yeah, stamina was the reason he lost to sanders, he gassed out after a round...
                Who didn't Sanders hurt with his short left,he even rocked Vitali.I still think that Wlad was fighting at too fast a pace for a heavyweight.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
                  We need a jizz mop in Jerk room 3! We need a jizz mop in Jerk room 3! Hanz, we have standards here at the Garcia Family adult Arcade. If you cant stay on top of the jizz mop were gonna have to let you go and demote Big Rigg from the cash register.
                  Quality

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by MXboxingfan View Post
                    Honestly, Roberto Ortiz fights have been against only journeyman so far. He has not yet shown that he is one the best at 140 pounds.
                    I like the sig. Ortiz definitely has a chance. He can make a statement and skyrocket his career if he beats Lucas.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
                      Agreed.Chin is mostly about genetics,it want be long before Lucas goes the way of Walter.....it's easuy to walk through the punches of Ajose or Alexander.
                      and Garcia and Molina...Matthysse finished all those fights on his feet.

                      Originally posted by Corelone View Post
                      Ortiz has cought hell from several nobodies, and got away with some shakey decisions. He hasn't shown anything to warrent this much of a jump in talent. Massa doesn't box or punch as good as Danny. Tough fight for him.
                      His record suggests he punches harder but that can be deceiving.

                      Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
                      Lucas will soon be fighting at welter and often comes to the ring weighing close to 160.....the only difference is that his brother fought Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron two very hard punchers.
                      No he doesn't, he comes in at 151-153lbs.

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