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  • Wuckoo
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    #31
    Originally posted by Hippie Beater
    ATG means all-time great

    Manny Floyd Wlad, sure

    The rest of these guys are just contenders. Maybe you mean "who will be the new undisputed champion of their division", not ATG.
    No I mean atg. These contenders may end up being atg. I wouldn't call rigo or canelo contenders. Golovkin is above contender level.

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    • just the facts
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      #32
      Originally posted by Wuckoo
      Was wondering who you all think will be ATGs in their respective divisions. Pac and mayweather are ATGs already as we know but I mean fighters who have a few more years before they retire.

      Superbantamweight- rigo
      Featherweight-loma
      Super feather-mikey(if he stays) or possibly gamboa
      Lightweight-a toss up really. Figueroa is quite popular and i like him big he hasn't done enough yet. Vasquez has been in a few mismatches though.
      Light welter-Crawford when he moves up.
      Welter-probably the hardest to judge. I can't pick one
      Light middle-Lara if he bounces back. Otherwise undecided
      Middle- canelo (let's be honest he isn't making 154 anymore) if he performs well at the weight. Or golovkin. Cotto is kind if an atg as it is.
      Super middle- if ward can get back into fighting then he may have a chance. If froch takes on chavez jr of golovkin then he would have a good enough resume.
      Light heavy- once hopkins retires (he has by far the best resume out of these guys) then it'll probably be kovalev or Stevenson. It would only be decided by a fight between the two.
      Cruiser-don't really follow cruiser
      Heavy- lol wat
      just my opinion:
      Rigo- has the tools to get there, can the opposition be good enough and if not does he have the prime years left to get there on longevity

      Loma: got a long way in a short time, seems to have skills, good opposition for future fights is a real question mark

      M Garcia- seems truly talented, but his handlers don't seem to want to put him in with tough competition, don't forget in his toughest fight, he basically quit

      Gamboa- naw

      Figuroa- all action fighter, but that style makes for short careers, he better hurry up and start fighting the type opponents that make ATG careers

      Crawford- I like his chances

      Lara- gonna have to do some real damage control at this point, to his credit, he is willing to fight anyone

      Canelo- still very young, so anythings possible. Struggled with Lara (I thought he eeked out a win) and got whitewashed by Floyd. I think a Cotto fight is 50/50 and I don't think he can beat GGG. Maybe

      GGG- he certainly passes the eye test but his team passed on fights with Ward and Lara, that tells you something. At 32, I don't think he has enough prime years left to be an ATG.

      Ward- I hope outside the ring issues don't derail his very real chance to be an ATG.

      Froch- tough call, gotta love the way he will fight anyone. He'll have to keep fighting for a while to overcome the convincing lose to Ward. Unfortunately, he's talking about retiring.

      Kovalev/Stevenson- I just don't see ATG status for either

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        #33
        Originally posted by just the facts
        just my opinion:
        Rigo- has the tools to get there, can the opposition be good enough and if not does he have the prime years left to get there on longevity

        Loma: got a long way in a short time, seems to have skills, good opposition for future fights is a real question mark

        M Garcia- seems truly talented, but his handlers don't seem to want to put him in with tough competition, don't forget in his toughest fight, he basically quit

        Gamboa- naw

        Figuroa- all action fighter, but that style makes for short careers, he better hurry up and start fighting the type opponents that make ATG careers

        Crawford- I like his chances

        Lara- gonna have to do some real damage control at this point, to his credit, he is willing to fight anyone

        Canelo- still very young, so anythings possible. Struggled with Lara (I thought he eeked out a win) and got whitewashed by Floyd. I think a Cotto fight is 50/50 and I don't think he can beat GGG. Maybe

        GGG- he certainly passes the eye test but his team passed on fights with Ward and Lara, that tells you something. At 32, I don't think he has enough prime years left to be an ATG.

        Ward- I hope outside the ring issues don't derail his very real chance to be an ATG.

        Froch- tough call, gotta love the way he will fight anyone. He'll have to keep fighting for a while to overcome the convincing lose to Ward. Unfortunately, he's talking about retiring.

        Kovalev/Stevenson- I just don't see ATG status for either
        Good points. Tbh I'm not sure about mikey and loma in particular for the reasons you say. Stevenson doesn't have long left in the sport but kovalev may be in for a shout if he clears out the division.

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        • -Kev-
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          #34
          We're gonna label every fighter ATG's now? Man, I thought the IBHOF had low standards, now we're handing out ATG status like flyers.

          Note: Guys like Canelo and Ward have potential, but I can't say for certain, I have to see how their careers play out in the next 2-3 years.

          HW: None (Wlad HOF)
          CW: None
          LHW: Hopkins ATG
          SMW: None (Ward HOF, Froch HOF)
          MW: None
          JMW: None (Cotto HOF, Canelo at least HOF)
          WW: Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez ATG (Bradley possible HOF)
          JWW: (Garcia possible HOF)
          LW: None
          SFW: (Maybe, just maybe Salido HOF)
          FW: (Donaire HOF) Gonzalez, Mares - Maybe HOF
          SBW: (Rigondeaux HOF) - I will keep my eye on Frampton.

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            #35
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            We're gonna label every fighter ATG's now? Man, I thought the IBHOF had low standards, now we're handing out ATG status like flyers.

            Note: Guys like Canelo and Ward have potential, but I can't say for certain, I have to see how their careers play out in the next 2-3 years.

            HW: None (Wlad HOF)
            CW: None
            LHW: Hopkins ATG
            SMW: None (Ward HOF, Froch HOF)
            MW: None
            JMW: None (Cotto HOF, Canelo at least HOF)
            WW: Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez ATG (Bradley possible HOF)
            JWW: (Garcia possible HOF)
            LW: None
            SFW: (Maybe, just maybe Salido HOF)
            FW: (Donaire HOF) Gonzalez, Mares - Maybe HOF
            SBW: (Rigondeaux HOF) - I will keep my eye on Frampton.
            Glad someone gave a shoutout to salido. I think people underrate him a lot!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Wuckoo
              Glad someone gave a shoutout to salido. I think people underrate him a lot!
              He has a decent resume.

              Lopez 2x, Lomachenko, technically beat Robert Guerrero but some drug testing BS happened. It's why I said maybe, because Lopez and Lomachenko won't cut it, but he's like 3-4 top wins away from being a sure HOF'er. I don't think he'll make it, but he's a solid guy.

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